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    Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    The Orange County Register - News - AP


    NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- A white Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have.

    Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.

    "I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."

    Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.

    Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.

    "There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."

    If he did an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.

    "I try to treat everyone equally," he said.

    Bardwell estimates that he has refused to marry about four couples during his career, all in the past 2 1/2 years.

    Beth Humphrey, 30, and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.

    Humphrey, an account manager for a marketing firm, said she and McKay, a welder, just returned to Louisiana. She is white and he is black. She plans to enroll in the University of New Orleans to pursue a masters degree in minority politics.

    "That was one thing that made this so unbelievable," she said. "It's not something you expect in this day and age."

    Humphrey said she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples. Bardwell suggested the couple go to another justice of the peace in the parish who agreed to marry them.

    "We are looking forward to having children," Humphrey said. "And all our friends and co-workers have been very supportive. Except for this, we're typical happy newlyweds."

    "It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzmann. She said the Supreme Court ruled in 1967 "that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."

    The ACLU sent a letter to the Louisiana Judiciary Committee, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and recommending "the most severe sanctions available, because such blatant bigotry poses a substantial threat of serious harm to the administration of justice."

    "He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzmann said.

    According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.

    Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.
    The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.

    "I've been a justice of the peace for 34 years and I don't think I've mistreated anybody," Bardwell said. "I've made some mistakes, but you have too. I didn't tell this couple they couldn't get married. I just told them I wouldn't do it."

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    That is disgusting and makes me very angry. Being in a mixed race marriage is not the easiest of things at the best of times and I say this from experience and living in a strange country. It is attitudes of the likes of Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, that make life harder and more unpleasant for otherwise reasonable normal people. They are two humans that love each other at the end of the day. They are not two different species. Their child will be a blend of the two of them and will be a human too.

    "I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way" says Keith Bardwell. Well, comments like that confirm him as a bit of a racist. He has black friends he says....but he's not so keen on mixed race types obviously. That man should lose his job and get a good slap from the woman he insulted by refusing to issue a marriage license. To actually refuse and give that as an excuse.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    That is disgusting and makes me very angry. Being in a mixed race marriage is not the easiest of things at the best of times and I say this from experience and living in a strange country. It is attitudes of the likes of Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, that make life harder and more unpleasant for otherwise reasonable normal people. They are two humans that love each other at the end of the day. They are not two different species. Their child will be a blend of the two of them and will be a human too.

    "I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way" says Keith Bardwell. Well, comments like that confirm him as a bit of a racist. He has black friends he says....but he's not so keen on mixed race types obviously. That man should lose his job and get a good slap from the woman he insulted by refusing to issue a marriage license. To actually refuse and give that as an excuse.....

    Nice response Miles, it seems that in many places the more things change the more they stay the same. Can't believe this still happens. There are laws and rules for a reason if you don't want to follow them get out and change your job.

    A pharmacist here recently was in the paper for not selling condoms in his shop because of religious resons !! WTF, people make up their own minds get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    That is disgusting and makes me very angry. Being in a mixed race marriage is not the easiest of things at the best of times and I say this from experience and living in a strange country. It is attitudes of the likes of Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, that make life harder and more unpleasant for otherwise reasonable normal people. They are two humans that love each other at the end of the day. They are not two different species. Their child will be a blend of the two of them and will be a human too.

    "I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way" says Keith Bardwell. Well, comments like that confirm him as a bit of a racist. He has black friends he says....but he's not so keen on mixed race types obviously. That man should lose his job and get a good slap from the woman he insulted by refusing to issue a marriage license. To actually refuse and give that as an excuse.....

    Nice response Miles, it seems that in many places the more things change the more they stay the same. Can't believe this still happens. There are laws and rules for a reason if you don't want to follow them get out and change your job.

    A pharmacist here recently was in the paper for not selling condoms in his shop because of religious resons !! WTF, people make up their own minds get over it.

    Love is love , End Of Story.
    That's just incredible! Where on earth do these people come from?

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    That's too bad, it's a shame stuff like this still happens. I say marry whoever you want to as long as it's a union between 2 (and only 2) consenting adults.

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    I mean this isn't a funny story at all overall but "I have piles and piles of black friends...they use my bathroom" made me laugh. Anyway Republicans in the south are going nuts.

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    ....that guy was a Democrat pre 2008

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    haha, I just put that in to mess with you. Of course they are going nuts but its not just limited to the south. I bet he was Republican on the national level, a lot of local level Dems are, or maybe he wasn't I don't know.

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    But seriously why would you be a Democrat and watch Bush do his best to drag the country into the dirt and then think hmm I should vote Republican?

    I wonder what his motivations were

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    ...perhaps because of Obama being half black. Doesn't seem to bother Senator Byrd who was in the KKK, he is still a Democrat

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    He's right. My life has been so terrible

    I think he's clearly a racist (funny how they always have 'loads of black friends' & never have 'a racist bone in their body), but in truth being mixed-race is far more complex than people think, I would say that there are definitely problems of acceptance. I think you tend to find yourself feeling more accepted by black people, but that's largely due to how society as a whole determines being 'black'. You also most certainly here black people coming out with this kind of stuff.

    You certainly have to put up with bigotry from both sides a lot more, but hey if there's one thing being mixed-race does, it makes you have a sense of humour about these things. Or makes you a sociopath. I can't decide

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    These heartless dinosaurs are living on borrowed time now. They are all going to have one last massive attempt at controlling all of us and this planet in many different ways. Change will come, its inevitable and those who hold fast to the old dead ways will snap like brittle twigs in the new wind .
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    Being from Texas and having family through the South I am pretty familiar white's racial feelings. Most of family I would feel 100% sure saying they are not racist but I do have some that I would say are not overtly racist but do harbor some cultural prejudices. While I'd imagine they don't approve of mixed marriages they also would probably say its none of their business and leave it with some classless ignorant remark. I would be interested in what the average black or hispanic family feels about their daughters or sons marrying outside of their ethnicity/race. I rarely have ever heard that perspective.
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    Maybe 16 years ago I was there with 2 Fighters Lafiyett. Went into a Bar with the 2 lads, all these Redknecks there the look we got. The 2 lads said I dont think this is a good idea, Then the Barman came over and said you had better leave, we did . Funny I got a Bus from New Orleans not knowing got on the back seat, and noticed all the Blacks looking at me. I said something wrong,a Black woman by my side said youre not from round here, I said no from England. She said the back of the bus is Blacks only, I said you dont mind do you, smiling she said no. Told here it seemed funny to me as in England at the time in fact 8 years I was sharing a flat with a Black Guy, anyway had a great journey and made a few freinds, The Busdriver gave me a funny look.
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    The guys a loon,a living breathing relic of bad days gone by.The story,the couple and nut job have been all over the local and national media.Crazy thing is that Bardwell is confined to a wheel chair...surely he himself has encountered some off mannerisms and lack of pleasantries pointed his way.Immportant to say that this is not metro New orleans their talking of.Lafiyette,St Bernard,Chalmette all have had recent examples of subtle and in your face rasicm.Ecspecially after Katrina.During which the color of one another was the last thing you worried about, it seemed lower lying areas and the city saw a nice unity during those desperate days.Much has come to the surface in the aftermath.The closing and armed blockade of the danziger and Gretna bridges were two.

    Unfortunately its still present,racism, in certain parishes (we dont have counties) down here.Your talking about the State in which David Duke ran for Governor in the early 90's.Was a former grand wizard of the Klu klux klan and had a sizable though ignorant following.That was one of the first elections I took part in and there was a famous saying/bumper sticker...."Vote for the crook".That Crook was Edwin Edwards who was running against Duke.He won.Well,Edwards is now serving time in State prison...boy we know how to pick them ehh .
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