Just heard Roach on tv say floyd wants the fight at 154??

[skel1983]

Is this Freddy talking his usual shit, or is this true?? If Floyd wants this at 154 he is a fucking joke, I have a feeling it's bollocks though.

[Kirkland Laing]

It's just a negotiating position, Manny will have started at 140. It's basically Roach starting to stir the shit. Looks like the fight is definitely on.

[skel1983]

I think you youre rite mate, anyone else a bit gutted its so soon, I wanted to go to this but there is just no way i can save up in that amount of time.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I'm not gonna lie, that would not surprise me. If Manny wanted to fight at 154 he'd wanna fight at 168 with a clause to pay for added weight by the pound. Floyd's a dick.

[blegit]

I'm not gonna lie, that would not surprise me. If Manny wanted to fight at 154 he'd wanna fight at 168 with a clause to pay for added weight by the pound. Floyd's a dick.

How do you conclude this about Floyd? What are you going by? You are aware that Floyd has never asked for a catchweight or any fight to be above welterweight, right? Roach is the one who wants the weight to be his way. He even had a stipulation of against Cotto of $1 million a pound if he went over that catchweight. Roach even threatened to call the Cotto fight off if Cotto came in at 147. You must have Floyd and Roach confused.

[skel1983]

I'm not gonna lie, that would not surprise me. If Manny wanted to fight at 154 he'd wanna fight at 168 with a clause to pay for added weight by the pound. Floyd's a dick.

How do you conclude this about Floyd? What are you going by? You are aware that Floyd has never asked for a catchweight or any fight to be above welterweight, right? Roach is the one who wants the weight to be his way. He even had a stipulation of against Cotto of $1 million a pound if he went over that catchweight. Roach even threatened to call the Cotto fight off if Cotto came in at 147. You must have Floyd and Roach confused.

I guess you missed the Marquez fight?? Or did you just purposely turn a blind eye .

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I'm not gonna lie, that would not surprise me. If Manny wanted to fight at 154 he'd wanna fight at 168 with a clause to pay for added weight by the pound. Floyd's a dick.

How do you conclude this about Floyd? What are you going by? You are aware that Floyd has never asked for a catchweight or any fight to be above welterweight, right? Roach is the one who wants the weight to be his way. He even had a stipulation of against Cotto of $1 million a pound if he went over that catchweight. Roach even threatened to call the Cotto fight off if Cotto came in at 147. You must have Floyd and Roach confused.

How do I conclude this? Oh, I don't know... Number one, I was being facetious about fighting at 168 so thanks for the history lesson. Floyd later in his career, like Bernard Hopkins during his middleweight reign has made a career of fighting high profile smaller men. Gatti, Hatton, JJM... The only reason he fought ODLH at 154 was cuz he knew he was used up.

Roach HAS to make stipulations like that or people would be able to exploit the fact that Manny is just plain fighting bigger men and he wants to make the advantage of normal weight to blow up weight negligable. If you're fighting 10 to 14 lbs out of your prefered weight class then you need to make sure the guys that wear this weight normally aren't going to take advantage of fighting a much smaller man.

...and yes, the Cotto stiputation was well documented.

[blegit]

I'm not gonna lie, that would not surprise me. If Manny wanted to fight at 154 he'd wanna fight at 168 with a clause to pay for added weight by the pound. Floyd's a dick.

How do you conclude this about Floyd? What are you going by? You are aware that Floyd has never asked for a catchweight or any fight to be above welterweight, right? Roach is the one who wants the weight to be his way. He even had a stipulation of against Cotto of $1 million a pound if he went over that catchweight. Roach even threatened to call the Cotto fight off if Cotto came in at 147. You must have Floyd and Roach confused.

I guess you missed the Marquez fight?? Or did you just purposely turn a blind eye .

You must've misunderstood. I said Floyd has never asked for a catchweight. Marquez's team is the one who asked for the catchweight. Not Floyd.

[blegit]

I'm not gonna lie, that would not surprise me. If Manny wanted to fight at 154 he'd wanna fight at 168 with a clause to pay for added weight by the pound. Floyd's a dick.

How do you conclude this about Floyd? What are you going by? You are aware that Floyd has never asked for a catchweight or any fight to be above welterweight, right? Roach is the one who wants the weight to be his way. He even had a stipulation of against Cotto of $1 million a pound if he went over that catchweight. Roach even threatened to call the Cotto fight off if Cotto came in at 147. You must have Floyd and Roach confused.

How do I conclude this? Oh, I don't know... Number one, I was being facetious about fighting at 168 so thanks for the history lesson. Floyd later in his career, like Bernard Hopkins during his middleweight reign has made a career of fighting high profile smaller men. Gatti, Hatton, JJM... The only reason he fought ODLH at 154 was cuz he knew he was used up.

Roach HAS to make stipulations like that or people would be able to exploit the fact that Manny is just plain fighting bigger men and he wants to make the advantage of normal weight to blow up weight negligable. If you're fighting 10 to 14 lbs out of your prefered weight class then you need to make sure the guys that wear this weight normally aren't going to take advantage of fighting a much smaller man.

...and yes, the Cotto stiputation was well documented.

Yes, but you said it wouldn't surprise you about Floyd wanting the weight here or there. Something has to give you a reason to not be surprised. And if Pac is demanding bigger guys to come down isn't that an advantage for him like it would be if they demanded Pac to come up? How was Floyd bigger than Gatti or Hatton? And if Floyd fought a used up DLH then what did Pac fight? A corpse DLH?

[skel1983]

How do you conclude this about Floyd? What are you going by? You are aware that Floyd has never asked for a catchweight or any fight to be above welterweight, right? Roach is the one who wants the weight to be his way. He even had a stipulation of against Cotto of $1 million a pound if he went over that catchweight. Roach even threatened to call the Cotto fight off if Cotto came in at 147. You must have Floyd and Roach confused.

I guess you missed the Marquez fight?? Or did you just purposely turn a blind eye .

You must've misunderstood. I said Floyd has never asked for a catchweight. Marquez's team is the one who asked for the catchweight. Not Floyd.

I understood what you meant, but the way your defend Mayweather on this boards you seem to think he is whiter than white when it comes to makeing fights, also if you check Mayweather also wants 10oz gloves aswell as the fight at 154.

I think the catchweight fight you are correct, but it's only fair this fight is at 147.

[Zilla]

How do you conclude this about Floyd? What are you going by? You are aware that Floyd has never asked for a catchweight or any fight to be above welterweight, right? Roach is the one who wants the weight to be his way. He even had a stipulation of against Cotto of $1 million a pound if he went over that catchweight. Roach even threatened to call the Cotto fight off if Cotto came in at 147. You must have Floyd and Roach confused.

How do I conclude this? Oh, I don't know... Number one, I was being facetious about fighting at 168 so thanks for the history lesson. Floyd later in his career, like Bernard Hopkins during his middleweight reign has made a career of fighting high profile smaller men. Gatti, Hatton, JJM... The only reason he fought ODLH at 154 was cuz he knew he was used up.

Roach HAS to make stipulations like that or people would be able to exploit the fact that Manny is just plain fighting bigger men and he wants to make the advantage of normal weight to blow up weight negligable. If you're fighting 10 to 14 lbs out of your prefered weight class then you need to make sure the guys that wear this weight normally aren't going to take advantage of fighting a much smaller man.

...and yes, the Cotto stiputation was well documented.

How was Floyd bigger than Gatti or Hatton? And if Floyd fought a used up DLH then what did Pac fight? A corpse DLH?

I was wondering about the Gatti thing myself. Wasn't that like Floyd's 3rd fight or something at 140? And I wouldn't exactly call Hatton a 'natural' 140lber considering how chubby he gets. You ask me, Oscar was a game opponent, fighting in his weight class, with his ring and his gloves. The guy just got beat.

[0james0]

Pac Man agrees March date

Pacquiao v Mayweather tentatively set for March 13



Manny Pacquiao looks set to fight Floyd Mayweather Jnr on March 13 after agreeing to a proposal from Bob Arum.

Pacquiao's adviser Michael Koncz said Arum presented the fighter with the proposal at a two-hour breakfast in Manila on Friday.
"The requests of Manny were so realistic that Arum doesn't feel it's a problem and it's pretty much a done deal," Koncz said.
The Filipino legend, who is running for president in his home nation, has some requests of his own that require some ironing out, although trainer Freddie Roach believes they will be no obstacle to the fight the world wants to see.

"We talked to Arum and he had the March date and May 1 available and Manny chose the earlier date because of the elections in the Phillipines, and I can't wait to get started," Roach told Sky Sports News.
"It'll be the biggest fight of all time, the biggest pay-per-view event of all time and my main sparring partner will be Amir Khan.
"There's always negotiations, like he (Mayweather) wants 10oz gloves we want 8oz gloves, stuff like that, the weight he wants is 154lb, we want 147, so there's some issues but I think it can be solved.
"It's a tough fight because his style does give us difficulties, and we need to draft a plan for a new strategy. Yes, it's a tough fight but it's a fight Manny wants."

Both fighters have claims to the right to be called the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, and it appears matters will be settled sooner, rather than later

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

How do you conclude this about Floyd? What are you going by? You are aware that Floyd has never asked for a catchweight or any fight to be above welterweight, right? Roach is the one who wants the weight to be his way. He even had a stipulation of against Cotto of $1 million a pound if he went over that catchweight. Roach even threatened to call the Cotto fight off if Cotto came in at 147. You must have Floyd and Roach confused.

How do I conclude this? Oh, I don't know... Number one, I was being facetious about fighting at 168 so thanks for the history lesson. Floyd later in his career, like Bernard Hopkins during his middleweight reign has made a career of fighting high profile smaller men. Gatti, Hatton, JJM... The only reason he fought ODLH at 154 was cuz he knew he was used up.

Roach HAS to make stipulations like that or people would be able to exploit the fact that Manny is just plain fighting bigger men and he wants to make the advantage of normal weight to blow up weight negligable. If you're fighting 10 to 14 lbs out of your prefered weight class then you need to make sure the guys that wear this weight normally aren't going to take advantage of fighting a much smaller man.

...and yes, the Cotto stiputation was well documented.

Yes, but you said it wouldn't surprise you about Floyd wanting the weight here or there. Something has to give you a reason to not be surprised. And if Pac is demanding bigger guys to come down isn't that an advantage for him like it would be if they demanded Pac to come up? How was Floyd bigger than Gatti or Hatton? And if Floyd fought a used up DLH then what did Pac fight? A corpse DLH?

Dude, how did Ricky Hatton look in his first fight at welterweight? What's the only other time he strayed north of 140? ...and yes Manny fought a corpse ODLH, Roach told him to jusmp on him seeing the IV marks in his arms... They were rehydrating him in the dressing room.

I just told you why I'm not surprised. He wants to be the bigger guy, like he has been for the past few years. What more do you need? Remember way back... long ago when Floyd fought Marquez? Yeah... No weight controvercy there. You're right.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

...and I will retract my Gatti statement.

[blegit]

I guess you missed the Marquez fight?? Or did you just purposely turn a blind eye .

You must've misunderstood. I said Floyd has never asked for a catchweight. Marquez's team is the one who asked for the catchweight. Not Floyd.

I understood what you meant, but the way your defend Mayweather on this boards you seem to think he is whiter than white when it comes to makeing fights, also if you check Mayweather also wants 10oz gloves aswell as the fight at 154.

I think the catchweight fight you are correct, but it's only fair this fight is at 147.

I agree the fight should be at 147. Like all welterweight title fights should be. But did Floyd really demand the fight to be at 154? Or is this just another Floyd rumor? Floyd can't even make a full 154. This would have to be a tactic to combat any catchweight so the fight is settled at 147. And I only defended Mayweather on the weight issue. Boston cracked on Floyd about the weight demands, who is relatively easy on the weight issue, while ignoring the fact that Roach is the king of weight demands.