Just heard Roach on tv say floyd wants the fight at 154??

[blegit]

I'm not gonna lie, that would not surprise me. If Manny wanted to fight at 154 he'd wanna fight at 168 with a clause to pay for added weight by the pound. Floyd's a dick.

How do you conclude this about Floyd? What are you going by? You are aware that Floyd has never asked for a catchweight or any fight to be above welterweight, right? Roach is the one who wants the weight to be his way. He even had a stipulation of against Cotto of $1 million a pound if he went over that catchweight. Roach even threatened to call the Cotto fight off if Cotto came in at 147. You must have Floyd and Roach confused.

How do I conclude this? Oh, I don't know... Number one, I was being facetious about fighting at 168 so thanks for the history lesson. Floyd later in his career, like Bernard Hopkins during his middleweight reign has made a career of fighting high profile smaller men. Gatti, Hatton, JJM... The only reason he fought ODLH at 154 was cuz he knew he was used up.

Roach HAS to make stipulations like that or people would be able to exploit the fact that Manny is just plain fighting bigger men and he wants to make the advantage of normal weight to blow up weight negligable. If you're fighting 10 to 14 lbs out of your prefered weight class then you need to make sure the guys that wear this weight normally aren't going to take advantage of fighting a much smaller man.

...and yes, the Cotto stiputation was well documented.

Yes, but you said it wouldn't surprise you about Floyd wanting the weight here or there. Something has to give you a reason to not be surprised. And if Pac is demanding bigger guys to come down isn't that an advantage for him like it would be if they demanded Pac to come up? How was Floyd bigger than Gatti or Hatton? And if Floyd fought a used up DLH then what did Pac fight? A corpse DLH?