Fame, Fortune, Women, Drugs, Bad Management

[Master]

What ruined your favourite fighters careers from one of the above?

[Master]

OK I will have to go first, Pavlik with his drug addiction of drinking, could have been a great instead of a bum which is what he is.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Burger King.

[Master]

Burger King.

Who was that?

[Beanflicker]

Burger King.

Who was that?

James Toney I would guess hahaha.

[Beanflicker]

I think the worst one is bad management and bad money management on the fighter's part that keeps them fighting WELL past their primes.

[Manos de Piedra]

I think Tyson goes under all of those.
Shane Mosley still fighting well after his prime because of a woman.
David Tua bad management.
Alot of fighters stay around because of money, roy, holyfield etc. I don't understand how they lose all those millions to still be fighting past their 40s.

[Mars_ax]

OK I will have to go first, Pavlik with his drug addiction of drinking, could have been a great instead of a bum which is what he is.

Pavlik comes to mind more recently, but there's been tons of fighters in the past with alcohol and drug problems.
Pavlik would likely be a drunk, whether he was a boxer or not. Boxing has just given him the financial means to do it on a larger scale. Part of being a "champion" is what you chose to do with your personal life, anybody can be a fucking drunk.

[ruthless rocco]

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[Tam Seddon]

De la Hoya fits in well!

[TitoFan]

Burger King.

LMAO!! That one could be first on the list. And yes.... the poster child for that one is James Toney.

[ross]

Being that master started this and the recent posts about Tyson, id bet Tyson influenced this

Mike did achive a hell of a lot in a pretty short time frame and it hurts some to think what more he could have achieved had he not been so easly mislead?

Unfortunately, it is those people who have that fundamental flaw of living to the excess and not focusing that we blame their careers on going wrong on everyone else but the fighter.

We are each in charge of our own destiny.

[outspoken]

Shame? ... Huge Prince Naseem fan, after his lost to Barrera he fought once and disappeared. He always talked about making a come back but I think after losing his undefeated record he felt either shameful or like his confidence was shot.. I truly don't know but I still felt he was a great fighter who was at his prime and lost to atg and gave up.

[outspoken]

Also.. wasn't one of my favorite fighters but I was a fan, Edwin Valero could of been great imo without his drug issues.

[Gandalf]

Being that master started this and the recent posts about Tyson, id bet Tyson influenced this

Mike did achive a hell of a lot in a pretty short time frame and it hurts some to think what more he could have achieved had he not been so easly mislead?

Unfortunately, it is those people who have that fundamental flaw of living to the excess and not focusing that we blame their careers on going wrong on everyone else but the fighter.

We are each in charge of our own destiny.

To a degree, but we are all shaped by how we grew up and fighters are not always the most clued in or aware. Fighters do have choices, but someone who has never had anything in terms of financial resources or loving relationships has it rougher. You are unlikely to see Prince Charles ever throw things away in the manner of Tyson.

I agree with that final sentence to an extent in that we have the ability to determine our own futures, but in a lot of cases I don't think it so cut and dry.