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    Default Roach says Pacman suffered an injury during Cotto fight

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    Default Re: Roach says Pacman suffered an injury during Cotto fight

    Good article. I think Roach is whistling past the graveyard though. Pac-man will make it a relatively competitive fight, but Floyd will outpoint him.
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    Floyd Fragile Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

    I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

    I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..

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    Default Re: Roach says Pacman suffered an injury during Cotto fight

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Floyd Fragile Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

    I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

    I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..
    Wow we finally agree on something...I think floyd will keep him on the end of that jab, but it will more more difficult than JMM or Judah, simply because of two things.

    Manny's left handed which means Floyd will lead with rights that will take him closer to manny. Secondly, when I was watching the Cotto fight after the first round, I said "If manny picks up his activity cotto will be in trouble"..This is what makes the floyd-pac fight closer than I thought before. Floyd is a victim of his own success and hasn't really been able to put three or more QUICK combos together. He uses the Roy jones strategy of pot-shotting. Floyd hasn't really had to move ALOT during a fight since the second JLC fight. So it will be interesting to see How Floyd will handle the jumping bean Manny Pacquiao once he starts to bounce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Floyd Fragile Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

    I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

    I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..
    Here we go again, Mayweather worshipping as usual. You can say many things but when you say Mayweather roughs Pacquiao up your obviously confused! Mayweather doesn't rough anyone up unless they have no defense (Gatti and Hatton come to mind), otherwise he tends to just outpoint people in an incredibly boring fashion. Pacquiao will once again beat the odds against Mayweather and overtake him with movement, speed, combinations, and the biggest heart in boxing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Floyd Fragile Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

    I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

    I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..
    Cotto ran for 4 rounds, Floyd will run all 12




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    Default Re: Roach says Pacman suffered an injury during Cotto fight

    Cotto was landing punches, I still thought he had a chance until it was clear he was overwhelmed because of that. Also, I think you could clearly see Manny was bothered by Cotto's punches which is more then you can say for De La Hoya, Diaz and Hatton. I also don't think his defense was as good in this one as it was made to look in that one. Didn't matter, Manny came to fight fire with fire and that's how he won. However, I think now that he has faced that type of clean punching, there can be no questions about Pac's chin or toughness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Floyd Fragile Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

    I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

    I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..
    JMM is not really good measure of how Maweather would do against Pacquiao. JMM can't handle outside fighters. Look what happened to him against Chris John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Floyd Fragile Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

    I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

    I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..
    Now then Buddy

    Interesting analysis, to a certain degree i agree with you, apart from the Floyd beating Manny bit. He did rough Hatton up for long periods using dirty elbows and forearms, but Hatton was in range for Floyd to utalise these dirty tricks, plus Cortez let him get away with it. Dont think Manny will put himself into a position to allow Floyd to use this tactic though. He'll be in and out so quick Floyd wont know what the hells going on.

    Does anyone see Mayweather Snr having any part of Floyds camp for this one, or will it be all left to uncle Roger?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Cotto was landing punches, I still thought he had a chance until it was clear he was overwhelmed because of that. Also, I think you could clearly see Manny was bothered by Cotto's punches which is more then you can say for De La Hoya, Diaz and Hatton. I also don't think his defense was as good in this one as it was made to look in that one. Didn't matter, Manny came to fight fire with fire and that's how he won. However, I think now that he has faced that type of clean punching, there can be no questions about Pac's chin or toughness.
    It doesn't matter how tough Manny is though, Marquez handled Floyd's power just fine, but he couldn't counter or catch Floyd with his punches. We have seen Pacquiao go into a shell when Marquez hit him to the body and kept Manny's rhythym off beat. Mayweather will do that a lot better, and Manny will suffer a lot more from having to face a guy the same speed as him than Mayweather will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *********** View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Floyd Fragile Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

    I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

    I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..
    Cotto ran for 4 rounds, Floyd will run all 12




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    I am responding to both of you, because Mayweather didn't rough Hatton up at all, he was getting mauled on the ropes, but he was too good for Hatton to hit him very often and eventually he adapted(something Manny can't do), and was able to pick Hatton apart as he began to tire.

    Also why hasn't anyone seen Mayweather fight a southpaw? He DOESN'T run against southpaws -.-

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Floyd Fragile Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

    I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

    I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..
    JMM is not really good measure of how Maweather would do against Pacquiao. JMM can't handle outside fighters. Look what happened to him against Chris John.
    What matters is that Mayweather is clearly faster than Marquez and bigger, and that Marquez was able to handle Manny's power, and he was able to hit Pacquiao at will, and nullify Manny's offensive brilliance. Mayweather does all these things, but better than Marquez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Floyd Fragile Floyd will have just as good footwork and speed as Pac, not to mention he will rough up Pacquiao in the clinch the forearms and elbows

    I think its funny how roach says Floyd is fragile, I dont see manny landing half the punches that he usually does on Floyd, and I see Floyd landing more punches on Pac than he usually does.. Sure Pac won but Cotto busted him up good, I see Floyd just frustrating him and making Pac frustrated to start be wild and reckless which opens Pac up to the surgical carvings of Floyd..

    I think its interesting that he basically roughed up Hatton for 10 rounds and then utilized none of his size advantages over JMM ans still pitched a shutout. Floyd will stick to gameplan, set traps and present a moving target, on the inside he will dirty box..
    JMM is not really good measure of how Maweather would do against Pacquiao. JMM can't handle outside fighters. Look what happened to him against Chris John.
    What matters is that Mayweather is clearly faster than Marquez and bigger, and that Marquez was able to handle Manny's power, and he was able to hit Pacquiao at will, and nullify Manny's offensive brilliance. Mayweather does all these things, but better than Marquez.
    How many times must i say this? Manny is a different animal than he was then. Hes gotten more powerful and skilled. If you want to compare them in the marquez fight go ahead, but like i said Pac man has dominated in much more convincing fashion DLH and Hatton. When pac stops floyd your going to be telling yourselves. Wait..... that cant happen. He couldnt KO marquez, and I i'll again say i told ya so.

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    Luke I can see what your saying manny has definetly improved leaps and bounds which is scary.. But so has Floyd, Castillo was 7 years ago and Floyd had an injury and left 0 doubt in the rematch, as far as Judah and his speed, I saw the same Judah who gives everyone trouble for the 1st few rounds.. Hell Judah is the undisputed Champion of 3 rounders until Floyd was busting him the rest of the way bloodying him up and Judah quitting by lowblowing and hitting in the back of the head on purpose....

    So thosse seem to be the 2 fights that everyone is basing Pacs success on, I mean really Roach is listening to that fatass old shot to pieces Castillo who is on their sparring payroll, thats the only way that guy could get a job anymore

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    Default Re: Roach says Pacman suffered an injury during Cotto fight

    pac damaged his own eardrum from his singing.

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