brachialis and shoulder pain in left arm

[boxing01]

Whenever I try to throw fast hook in shadowboxing or when i push something with my left arm I feel branchialis and shoulder pain It made my hook slower. I don't have problems with straight punches only hooks any help?

[Andre]

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Chris's answer about correct alignment when throwing a hook may interest you.

Ive seen people go too hard and hurt themselves on a heavy bag by trying to get body weight behind a punch or turning their body or moving forward bodily after contact getting the shoulder out of line.Not good practice.

[boxing01]

I'm throwing it properly and I don't have any problems punching a bag I don't feel anything but the pain starts when shadow boxing and also when throwing something it makes my branchialis hurt so bad

[Andre]

Maybe you got a slight tear and over extending is undoing any healing thats taking place.

[AdamGB]

Could be an impinged nerve in your shoulder girdle with radiating pain.

The majority of boxers have a massive imbalance in the shoulders... Overactive and overdeveloped anterior deltoid/pec minor and a weak and inactive posterior shoulder muscles.

Start doing deep pec minor and anterior delt stretches/soft tissue release and strength exerses that involve retraction of the shoulders and/or external rotation, such as bent over row and reverse fly. This will open up the subacromonal space in your shoulder and should free any impinged nerves or tendons.

A wall bicep stretch may help too

[Gray Lion]

I am not a doctor. There are a lot of questions unanswered....age? past injuries? Your training techniques? It could be anything from minor to something a doctor needs to check. It could very well be that you need to lay off training for awhile to heal a tear, bruise, or injury. If it really hurts, you need to have it checked out. Only You can know.

[boxing01]

Hey guys , I consulted a doctor about it he told me that it could be a neck problem and he said that I must do a MRI test . I did it and the results says that there is only neck spasm I've been resting my arm and taking muscle relaxers since I posted this problem and the pain didn't go away but increased, I feel pain in my trapezius, shoulder, brachialis, bicep, tricep and forearm not all at the same time every day the pain go to one of these specific places and my arm feel weak , same symptoms of a pinched nerve but the results didn't show a pinched nerve. I don't know what to do. anyone had experienced a similiar problem before?

[cambay411]

Hey guys , I consulted a doctor about it he told me that it could be a neck problem and he said that I must do a MRI test . I did it and the results says that there is only neck spasm I've been resting my arm and taking muscle relaxers since I posted this problem and the pain didn't go away but increased, I feel pain in my trapezius, shoulder, brachialis, bicep, tricep and forearm not all at the same time every day the pain go to one of these specific places and my arm feel weak , same symptoms of a pinched nerve but the results didn't show a pinched nerve. I don't know what to do. anyone had experienced a similiar problem before?

Your probably feeling all that shit worse because the muscle relaxers wear off.


If it only hurts when doing specific exercises you should have just rested it, specifically from the exercises that were causing pain.


Your obviously over working something and as Andre pointed out under working other supporting muscles.


Quit the muscle relaxers and look up boxing specific shoulder exercise and stretches to prevent injury. It may be a few days before your body feels better from quitting the muscle relaxers. I know your not "addicted" and haven't been on them long but trust me your body will fill it when it wears off.


Take Ibuprophen for the pain and inflammation. Go back to the docter as well. Maybe a different doc if he/she is the one that prescribe you muscle relaxers from no reason. Nothing against the doc but it seems has little knowledge about sports injuries.


All in all, I would say its most likely the muscles you work during boxing are over trained. Rest them for a week and start working the "supporting" muscles for a couple weeks. Start getting more rest in general as well.


Stay off the bags for awhile and maybe stick with some light sparring. Switch your stance up if you want to rest the shoulder (I assume its your lead bothering you?)


Im not a docter so find you a good doc. He/she didn't give you any diagnosis?

[Scrap]

By what you say, it looks like you have an inbalance in the Hips. Which is affecting the top 6 vertebrata. Its common in the Spine, causing an inbalance in the shoulders. Through the inability of the Head to control your balance mechanics, through the Hips. You need a good Osteopath.

[StrictlySP]

Hi boxing01,
I'm familiar with what you're going through as I've experienced problems like yours in the past. Anyway, I've been to a few orthopedic doctors (specializing in shoulders) in my time and as a result have been prescribed various rehab regimens (from simple protocols to downright complicated, time-consuming ones). The regimen that has worked best in rehabbing and maintaining my shoulders' health are bar hangs and pull-ups. With that said, here's a suggestion for you. Take 800 mg of ibuprofen (e.g. Advil, Motrin) twice a day for 14 days (and 14 days only) with food. During that period, just rest your arm. Do nothing with it. After this two week period, begin doing bar hangs (two-handed, palms-facing-away, shoulder-width or slightly wider apart). Start off by bar-hanging for five to 10 second durations. Do this for four sets (spreading them out a few minutes apart). Gradually build up to 30 second hangs. When you can do four sets of 30 second hangs, your shoulder should be much better. After you achieve this, you can stay with this protocol for maintenance or progress on. I suggest progressing on to four sets of one-minute hangs (this is primarily where I stay at). You can proceed on to two-minute hangs if you'd like to work on your grip strength as well. However, sticking with 30-second to one-minute hangs (done every day) are more than sufficient for shoulder health purposes.

In terms of pull-ups, incorporate them into your regimen once you can do four sets of 30 second hangs. When you do so, begin with low sets and low reps, starting with one set of two to three reps then build up from there. Once you get to five reps, then do two sets of two to three reps and build up to five reps there. Progress on to three sets then four sets then five sets. Once you're at five sets of five reps (done every other day), that's a good place to stay for shoulder health maintenance purposes. If you want to keep going on, that's great too as the pull-up is one of the premier compound upper-body bodyweight exercises. If you do decide to use pull-ups as part of your overall strength and conditioning program, try to achieve 20 or more reps. Trust me, it'll pay dividends in more ways than one.

Oh, one more thing, when you do your pull-ups, primarily use the palms-facing-away grip (shoulder width or slightly greater apart) as this gives the most bang for your buck in terms of shoulder rehab. With that said, feel free to incorporate the palms-facing-towards-you grip along with the neutral palms-facing-each-other grip as well. All three have their benefits, with the pronated grip being the most optimal one for shoulder health purposes.

In closing, while there are many effective rehab protocols for the various shoulder ailments that abound, I've found bar-hangs and pull-ups to be the best all-around shoulder health exercises for rehabilitation and maintenance. Maybe they'll work for you too. Give 'em a shot. Good luck...

Take Care,
Lito

[AdamGB]

I'd treat pull ups with a bit of caution as the lats insert into the anterior of the humerus and cause i ternal rotation when tight.

Ensure you start each rep from a dead hang so that tve lats aren't firing in a shortened, restructive pattern.

Exercises that involve shoulder retraction such as rows, reverse fly and resistance band external rotations would be better suited along with stretch of the pec minor, anterior deltoid and coracobrachialis muscle