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    Default I got a question.....

    Hello ALL.

    My name is Robert aka. CutMeMick. I frequent the Boxing Talk, Let's Get It On among other boards the most. I've come here several times to read, I read a lot. I'm a learner I'm here to read and not post on this forum as you guys are the experts here. Except for alex_w...

    Abyway....

    Well today I odered this puppy:

    Heavy Duty Triple Threat Gym


    So my question is....
    What do I do with it?

    Being that I'm sure you guys know your way better through this Forum then me. I was hoping you'd guys could direct me to some threads on here that I could use for when my gym arrives.

    I've also got a treadmill, excersice bike, jump rope and some weights.

    I pretty much know the different types of excersices I can do with the equipment I've got. But I don't know where to start.

    What I want to do is set up a routine that I can do. I should mention this ONLY for me to stay fit I am NOT doing this because I want to box. I know swimming is one of the best ways to stay fit but unfortunately I couldn't afford building a swimming pool in my house so I had to settle for the gym.

    So I hope someone can help me out here in designing a routine that best suits me.

    Thanks in advanced,
    Mick
    Last edited by CutMeMick; 05-18-2008 at 04:57 AM.

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    uhhh...u pay for that thing already?

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    uhhh...u pay for that thing already?
    Yes, why?

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    My question is where is your online training log you had.
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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    Quote Originally Posted by boozeboxer View Post
    My question is where is your online training log you had.
    I couldn't keep up with it...

    I'm downloading, listening to music, watching tv and chatting all at once.

    Remember to put my picks in, topics I want to respond to, topics I want to start...

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    Okay, well I would probably suggest you look at separating the items in most situations, for several reasons. I suspect it may be handy and practical for space saving.

    Part of why I would recommend the separation is the bag itself for starts. At 70lb you may find yourself knocking it around quite easily, and fast. I do not know your physical size, but a 100+ bag is usually a good place to start.

    I do notice that it is a dbl end bag, so this may counter act it's weight some.

    Is space an issue? Would you consider separating, or is it too late?

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    Okay, well I would probably suggest you look at separating the items in most situations, for several reasons. I suspect it may be handy and practical for space saving.

    Part of why I would recommend the separation is the bag itself for starts. At 70lb you may find yourself knocking it around quite easily, and fast. I do not know your physical size, but a 100+ bag is usually a good place to start.

    I do notice that it is a dbl end bag, so this may counter act it's weight some.

    Is space an issue? Would you consider separating, or is it too late?
    Space is not an issue I've got a big work out room I've set up in my backyard.

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    Okay, well I have banged one of those around, and if I have a choice I am definately separating them. I really think you might want to consider a heavier free floating bag that has proper action.

    This goes for the other items too. You want the ability to move around them. An item like that, nice as it looks coming in one piece, and I am guessing practical for a lot of people, is not IMO ideal to someone where space is not an issue.

    As you stated tho, you are doing this mainly for the exercise and also I suppose that needs to be factored in.

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    uhhh...u pay for that thing already?
    Mick,

    A, I'm surprised you're such a fan of bxing yet have never really done it. (Am I right?)

    B, I hate to tell you this, bro, but I think honestly is best. Cancel your order if you can. you are far etter off to stick with itemizing things.... buy a decent heavy bag from title or ringsde an hang it from your rafters.

    screw the speed bag. if you're a newb, you don't need it. The truth is, you'll be disappointed with that speedbag. the bag will have poor action and the platform will be very flimsy. You have to spend big bucks tog et a decent speedbag platform. I made my own out of wood form a high end lumber yeard. $65 should get you some nice 2" thick red oak. Then buy a bag and swivel from title.

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    For starters I want to thank EVERYONE for their advice I really appreciate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Milash View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    uhhh...u pay for that thing already?
    Mick,

    A, I'm surprised you're such a fan of bxing yet have never really done it. (Am I right?)

    B, I hate to tell you this, bro, but I think honestly is best. Cancel your order if you can. you are far etter off to stick with itemizing things.... buy a decent heavy bag from title or ringsde an hang it from your rafters.

    screw the speed bag. if you're a newb, you don't need it. The truth is, you'll be disappointed with that speedbag. the bag will have poor action and the platform will be very flimsy. You have to spend big bucks tog et a decent speedbag platform. I made my own out of wood form a high end lumber yeard. $65 should get you some nice 2" thick red oak. Then buy a bag and swivel from title.
    Von,

    1. I've boxed before and have been in a gym.

    2. When I said what do I do with it, I meant the actual item asking if anyone else had one or had used one. I guess I should have been more specific.

    3. Your "Return Item" comment scares me... The thing with buying the items in sections to set them up alone would be buying/building the mounts and or areas in which to set them up which I think is more then what I want. I've got enough tasks here fixing up my house with remodeling and doorways etc. etc. that the last thing I'd want is another job.

    Thank you for your honesty I can appreciate that, but I guess at this moment I have no choice and I have to make the best of it. Maybe you can help me out and find a way to work with what I've got.

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    For starters I want to thank EVERYONE for their advice I really appreciate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Milash View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    uhhh...u pay for that thing already?
    Mick,

    A, I'm surprised you're such a fan of bxing yet have never really done it. (Am I right?)

    B, I hate to tell you this, bro, but I think honestly is best. Cancel your order if you can. you are far etter off to stick with itemizing things.... buy a decent heavy bag from title or ringsde an hang it from your rafters.

    screw the speed bag. if you're a newb, you don't need it. The truth is, you'll be disappointed with that speedbag. the bag will have poor action and the platform will be very flimsy. You have to spend big bucks tog et a decent speedbag platform. I made my own out of wood form a high end lumber yeard. $65 should get you some nice 2" thick red oak. Then buy a bag and swivel from title.
    Von,

    1. I've boxed before and have been in a gym.

    2. When I said what do I do with it, I meant the actual item asking if anyone else had one or had used one. I guess I should have been more specific.

    3. Your "Return Item" comment scares me... The thing with buying the items in sections to set them up alone would be buying/building the mounts and or areas in which to set them up which I think is more then what I want. I've got enough tasks here fixing up my house with remodeling and doorways etc. etc. that the last thing I'd want is another job.

    Thank you for your honesty I can appreciate that, but I guess at this moment I have no choice and I have to make the best of it. Maybe you can help me out and find a way to work with what I've got.

    I'm going to have a look at one of the stands in a week or 2 at a sport store around the corner, so i'll tell you how much room they have etc... I'll also test the speed bag platform out to see if they are sturdy.. Even though i'm sure different brands are a bit different, i'll get an idea whether they are just crap or worthwhile... If it came to it, you could probably upgrade the wood to something a little thicker or even get a new swivel/bag eventually...

    It's difficult not having any place to hang that stuff.. Especially a double ended bag..

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    Should I use air or helium to inflate the speed bag and the double end bag?

    Anyone?

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    For starters I want to thank EVERYONE for their advice I really appreciate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Milash View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    uhhh...u pay for that thing already?
    Mick,

    A, I'm surprised you're such a fan of bxing yet have never really done it. (Am I right?)

    B, I hate to tell you this, bro, but I think honestly is best. Cancel your order if you can. you are far etter off to stick with itemizing things.... buy a decent heavy bag from title or ringsde an hang it from your rafters.

    screw the speed bag. if you're a newb, you don't need it. The truth is, you'll be disappointed with that speedbag. the bag will have poor action and the platform will be very flimsy. You have to spend big bucks tog et a decent speedbag platform. I made my own out of wood form a high end lumber yeard. $65 should get you some nice 2" thick red oak. Then buy a bag and swivel from title.
    Von,

    1. I've boxed before and have been in a gym.

    2. When I said what do I do with it, I meant the actual item asking if anyone else had one or had used one. I guess I should have been more specific.

    3. Your "Return Item" comment scares me... The thing with buying the items in sections to set them up alone would be buying/building the mounts and or areas in which to set them up which I think is more then what I want. I've got enough tasks here fixing up my house with remodeling and doorways etc. etc. that the last thing I'd want is another job.

    Thank you for your honesty I can appreciate that, but I guess at this moment I have no choice and I have to make the best of it. Maybe you can help me out and find a way to work with what I've got.

    well, I hope I'm wrong then. The double ender will be fine, and he heavy ok too mmost likely. but try your best to anchor the speed bag platform. you might be wise to build your own platform after the fact and secure THAT to it. th heavier the platform, the better the rebound/action. as you already know.

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    Well it got here last week on Thur. I built it and all I need to get some weight to give it more stability and I'm ready to go.

    I'm very proud of myself I've cut out Soda, beer and lots of fatty foods out of my menu. Coming from a Mexican family we eat everything fried. We deeep fry just about anything and we don't use oil cause that's too healthy we use lard.

    Anyway I've been eating healthy and I havent had a burger or a taco in about 3 weeks now. Lot's of salads well cooked chicken breast, steaks, veggies, peanuts, wheat, everything "light" or "non-fat".

    No more cookies in the morning all I have is fruit and cereal the occasional toast with juice and I also make some shakes.

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    Default Re: I got a question.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Hello ALL.

    What I want to do is set up a routine that I can do. I should mention this ONLY for me to stay fit I am NOT doing this because I want to box. I know swimming is one of the best ways to stay fit but unfortunately I couldn't afford building a swimming pool in my house so I had to settle for the gym.

    So I hope someone can help me out here in designing a routine that best suits me.
    Hi Robert, or should I say Mick.

    I don't think that you're missing a thing (with the exception of some spandex, leg warmers and a copy of Derrek's Dance Grooves). All you need now is time and a routine to put it all together.

    Now even though you're just looking to stay in shape, if you have a home boxing gym you should spend the extra effort learning how to punch properly. Trust me your shoulders and elbows will thank you later.

    Once you got punching down you can start to work on the bags. Start off with a warmup of dynamic stretches for your neck, arms, shoulders and legs, top it off with a round or two of jumpring rope. Now that you're all fired up and ready to go you can start with a couple of rounds on the heavybag, a couple of rounds on the speed bag.

    How does that sound for starters?

    I know that besides looking at the clock, that it can be a pain in the ass to keep track of how much time goes into a round. So, I recommend downloading an the rounds in mp3. You can get download it from this link that you can thank me for not deleting from my favorites: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N2BNCJUQ -Just go to the folder named "minute drills" and add it to your itunes and you'll be all set. You can work in 3 minute rounds or two minute rounds, whatever you're willing to do.

    You don't have to do this routine everyday, you can do this 3 days a week with a day in between each, or alternate doing weights on those days you're not punching.

    Let me know what you think of it and how you can manage, and we can always go back and fill in the gaps later, such how to punch properly, how to set up a weight lifting program that won't kill you, etc.

    P.S. Instead of a swimming pool I would have opted for a jacuzzi. You can always break even by giving your friends snorkling lessons. It's also cool to have a small fridge right in arms reach no matter what the occasion.
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