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    Default Anyone Else Think That If Shane Beats Margarito, PBF Will Want Shane?

    If Floyd has showed us anything the last 4 years it is that he only likes to fight guys he thinks he has the style to beat with the smallest risk and the biggest profit. Thats not a knock on Floyd, but I believe its true. I give Shane about a 35-40% chance of beating Mararito by close decision or maybe a TD. He is clearly past it but he may have a good style to beat Marg or he may have luck on his side. If he pulls it off I think Floyd will jump at the opportinity to fight him. It looks like Hatton-Pac is set and I doubt Floyd will want to stay inactive, while those two are getting all the media attention. He will want to get his name back out there and what better way than to fight an old fighter with a name in Shane in a WW title fight. On the other hand, if Margarito beats Shane I dont think We'll be seeing PBF-Margarito. This is all just a thought, but I wouldnt be surprised if it hapened.
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    Default Re: Anyone Else Think That If Shane Beats Margarito, PBF Will Want Shane?

    If Floyd is truly hard-up I think you will see Mayweather stomping for a romp with Margarito. I think the only reason Mayweather didn't fight him was because he couldn't make any money on it. Now people know Antonio, now they want to see what he'll do next, now is the time to fight him for a ton of money.
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    Default Re: Anyone Else Think That If Shane Beats Margarito, PBF Will Want Shane?

    From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.

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    Default Re: Anyone Else Think That If Shane Beats Margarito, PBF Will Want Shane?

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.
    You could very well right, he did look old against Mayorga even Cotto imo, but Im just saying what if he does win. He still has a chance, I could see shane not alowing Margarito to get in a rythm, and beating him to the punch, if his legs hold up he could pull it off. Im still favoring Tony to win though too.
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    Default Re: Anyone Else Think That If Shane Beats Margarito, PBF Will Want Shane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
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    From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.
    You could very well right, he did look old against Mayorga even Cotto imo, but Im just saying what if he does win. He still has a chance, I could see shane not alowing Margarito to get in a rythm, and beating him to the punch, if his legs hold up he could pull it off. Im still favoring Tony to win though too.
    I was at the Cotto fight and I thought Shane still looked a decent threat at that time. But the year layoff did him no favours, and fighting at 154 may have been a reason for being slower, but he looked half the fighter he was and I just see Shane being punished badly by Tony. I understand your Floyd argument completely, I just don't see it being a factor.

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    Default Re: Anyone Else Think That If Shane Beats Margarito, PBF Will Want Shane?

    I doubt that PBF will fight SSM even if he beats Margarito. I just dont see that match happening.

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    Default Re: Anyone Else Think That If Shane Beats Margarito, PBF Will Want Shane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.
    You could very well right, he did look old against Mayorga even Cotto imo, but Im just saying what if he does win. He still has a chance, I could see shane not alowing Margarito to get in a rythm, and beating him to the punch, if his legs hold up he could pull it off. Im still favoring Tony to win though too.

    Whilst I agree that Shane was a shadow of his former self vs Mayorga we must remember that Shane was up against a big, mauling wild guy who was coming down from super middleweight . Shane instead of boxing stood his ground and knocked this guy clean out . Margarito when he moved up just afew pounds to light middle showed he couldnt handle the extra weight vs Dan Santos. Mosley wont be fearful of his strength, moreso his pace and pressure.

    Should Shane win ( which I dont think he will ) then I reckon Floyd would take that fight cuz everyone knows Shane and that would sell big. My money would be on PBF on points . Prime for prime I go for Shane

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    Default Re: Anyone Else Think That If Shane Beats Margarito, PBF Will Want Shane?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
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    From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.
    You could very well right, he did look old against Mayorga even Cotto imo, but Im just saying what if he does win. He still has a chance, I could see shane not alowing Margarito to get in a rythm, and beating him to the punch, if his legs hold up he could pull it off. Im still favoring Tony to win though too.

    Whilst I agree that Shane was a shadow of his former self vs Mayorga we must remember that Shane was up against a big, mauling wild guy who was coming down from super middleweight . Shane instead of boxing stood his ground and knocked this guy clean out . Margarito when he moved up just afew pounds to light middle showed he couldnt handle the extra weight vs Dan Santos. Mosley wont be fearful of his strength, moreso his pace and pressure.

    Should Shane win ( which I dont think he will ) then I reckon Floyd would take that fight cuz everyone knows Shane and that would sell big. My money would be on PBF on points . Prime for prime I go for Shane
    I don't think Shane is a shadow of his old self at all, I just think big guys aren't his cup of tea, his style suits him way more against boxers and smaller guys than it does againt big puncher types. He is still very fast as the Collazo fight would indicate, he still has very good reflexes, I just feel guys like Vargas, Cotto, and Mayorga would have given him some troubles at any point of his career simply because of their styles.

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    Default Re: Anyone Else Think That If Shane Beats Margarito, PBF Will Want Shane?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.
    You could very well right, he did look old against Mayorga even Cotto imo, but Im just saying what if he does win. He still has a chance, I could see shane not alowing Margarito to get in a rythm, and beating him to the punch, if his legs hold up he could pull it off. Im still favoring Tony to win though too.

    Whilst I agree that Shane was a shadow of his former self vs Mayorga we must remember that Shane was up against a big, mauling wild guy who was coming down from super middleweight . Shane instead of boxing stood his ground and knocked this guy clean out . Margarito when he moved up just afew pounds to light middle showed he couldnt handle the extra weight vs Dan Santos. Mosley wont be fearful of his strength, moreso his pace and pressure.

    Should Shane win ( which I dont think he will ) then I reckon Floyd would take that fight cuz everyone knows Shane and that would sell big. My money would be on PBF on points . Prime for prime I go for Shane
    How did he demonstrate that he couldn't handle the extra weight? While I agree Margarito is better at 147, he moved up and fought a very competitive fight against one of the best 154 lb'ers in the world. He hust Santos several times and many people felt he was winning, or on his way to winning, the fight when it was stopped. I think he proved he could handle 154, especially with the paucity of talent in that division when compared to 147; though it has improved dramatically recently.

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    Default Re: Anyone Else Think That If Shane Beats Margarito, PBF Will Want Shane?

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.
    You are not the only one who thinks Mosley is past it. Many people think this. And it is true. He is still competitive but Mosley can no longer outbox top competition and he no longer has that stretch in the championship rounds. His combos are not even there anymore. He throws one and then one two. His powerboxing is gone. Mosley will be a punished boxer against Margarito unless somehow he pulls the cat out of the bag one more time. And the best way to beat Margarito is to go to the body consistently. Maybe Mosley is working on this scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
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    From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.
    You are not the only one who thinks Mosley is past it. Many people think this. And it is true. He is still competitive but Mosley can no longer outbox top competition and he no longer has that stretch in the championship rounds. His combos are not even there anymore. He throws one and then one two. His powerboxing is gone. Mosley will be a punished boxer against Margarito unless somehow he pulls the cat out of the bag one more time. And the best way to beat Margarito is to go to the body consistently. Maybe Mosley is working on this scheme.
    I remember after the Mayorga fight on here, lots of people were looking through rose tinted glasses about the performance Mosley put on and couldn't believe anyone would score the fight Mayorga's way. So on that merit, I thought I'd receive a bit of a backlash for making that statment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killface View Post
    If Floyd is truly hard-up I think you will see Mayweather stomping for a romp with Margarito. I think the only reason Mayweather didn't fight him was because he couldn't make any money on it. Now people know Antonio, now they want to see what he'll do next, now is the time to fight him for a ton of money.
    Sorry I disagree. The ONLY reason Mayweather didnt fight Margarito and NEVER WILL is.........
    Floyd is scared shitless of Tony, he knows to get in the ring with him means byebye 0 & hello ass whuppin
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    Quote Originally Posted by C.J.Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killface View Post
    If Floyd is truly hard-up I think you will see Mayweather stomping for a romp with Margarito. I think the only reason Mayweather didn't fight him was because he couldn't make any money on it. Now people know Antonio, now they want to see what he'll do next, now is the time to fight him for a ton of money.
    Sorry I disagree. The ONLY reason Mayweather didnt fight Margarito and NEVER WILL is.........
    Floyd is scared shitless of Tony, he knows to get in the ring with him means byebye 0 & hello ass whuppin
    I gotta agree ith C.J. on that, Floyd cares too much about his undefeated status to risk it. He loves the 0 on his record and he loves 0's on his paychecks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C.J.Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Killface View Post
    If Floyd is truly hard-up I think you will see Mayweather stomping for a romp with Margarito. I think the only reason Mayweather didn't fight him was because he couldn't make any money on it. Now people know Antonio, now they want to see what he'll do next, now is the time to fight him for a ton of money.
    Sorry I disagree. The ONLY reason Mayweather didnt fight Margarito and NEVER WILL is.........
    Floyd is scared shitless of Tony, he knows to get in the ring with him means byebye 0 & hello ass whuppin
    I gotta agree ith C.J. on that, Floyd cares too much about his undefeated status to risk it. He loves the 0 on his record and he loves 0's on his paychecks.
    Yeah, he was offered $8Milllion to fight Margarito but he was too scared to accept it. That was before MArgarito fought Cotto. How much more now that AM has shown how he can't be easily beaten.

    Floyd would be coming back to fight Pac coz he knows he has a runner's chance against Pac.

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    Default Re: Anyone Else Think That If Shane Beats Margarito, PBF Will Want Shane?

    Shane's best days are clearly behind him. Having said that...i had him at the very least fighting Cotto to a draw. And sure...beating Mayorga isn't anything to write home about...but he is naturally a bigger fighter than Shane and has always had a solid chin. So that's not bad for a fighter who is past his prime. Does this mean Shane will beat Tony...not neccessarly. But I think Shane is still the faster, better skilled fighter than Tony...and you never know when all the wars will catch up to Tony. So i can see this fight going either way: Shane pulling off an upset by fighting a smart fight or Shane getting battered into retirement. As for Floyd...he is a shrewd matchmaker. In the latter part of his career he has been more concerned with the event fights rather than taking on the best fighter available. So i don't see him fighting Tony (high risk, low reward $$$). I also don't see him jumping at the chance to fight Cotto. So that leaves Pac and Hatton. Sure, a Hatton rematch would be completely meaningless. But with his father training Ricky...it would again be an event/hype fight (and also a fight where he would clearly be the favorite). And finally there would be the Pac fight. This would be the most talked about matchup. Alot of money and publicity...and in Floyd's head...enough of a challenge to make it interesting...but a fight where his more polished skill would be enough to win.

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