Anyone Else Think That If Shane Beats Margarito, PBF Will Want Shane?

[Wayne]

If Floyd is truly hard-up I think you will see Mayweather stomping for a romp with Margarito. I think the only reason Mayweather didn't fight him was because he couldn't make any money on it. Now people know Antonio, now they want to see what he'll do next, now is the time to fight him for a ton of money.

[bzkfn]

From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.

[Boom Boom]

From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.

You could very well right, he did look old against Mayorga even Cotto imo, but Im just saying what if he does win. He still has a chance, I could see shane not alowing Margarito to get in a rythm, and beating him to the punch, if his legs hold up he could pull it off. Im still favoring Tony to win though too.

[bzkfn]

From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.

You could very well right, he did look old against Mayorga even Cotto imo, but Im just saying what if he does win. He still has a chance, I could see shane not alowing Margarito to get in a rythm, and beating him to the punch, if his legs hold up he could pull it off. Im still favoring Tony to win though too.

I was at the Cotto fight and I thought Shane still looked a decent threat at that time. But the year layoff did him no favours, and fighting at 154 may have been a reason for being slower, but he looked half the fighter he was and I just see Shane being punished badly by Tony. I understand your Floyd argument completely, I just don't see it being a factor.

[kingfrnk]

I doubt that PBF will fight SSM even if he beats Margarito. I just dont see that match happening.

[ClubberLang]

Depends. Floyd will be looking for the biggest money fight possible. Right now, that would be the winner of Pac-Hatton. But since that fight won't happen until May, then Floyd probably wouldn't fight the winner until November or December. Mosley-Margarito fight in January. So, if Floyd wants to get into the ring before Nov or Dec, then I could see him fighting Shane in, say, June if Shane beats Tony. But Shane even in his prime wasn't really a big money fighter, so he won't bring Floyd nearly as much as Pac-Hatton.

[Boom Boom]

Depends. Floyd will be looking for the biggest money fight possible. Right now, that would be the winner of Pac-Hatton. But since that fight won't happen until May, then Floyd probably wouldn't fight the winner until November or December. Mosley-Margarito fight in January. So, if Floyd wants to get into the ring before Nov or Dec, then I could see him fighting Shane in, say, June if Shane beats Tony. But Shane even in his prime wasn't really a big money fighter, so he won't bring Floyd nearly as much as Pac-Hatton.

Good points, i think if Mayweather-Mosley was hyped up right, which with GBP it would be, it would bring in good number. Pac or Hatton would be bigger but Im thinking he would fight the winner of both. Like you said the timing would work out so hed have like 5 or 6 months between the two, maybe even more. Sufficient time to hype both.

[GAME]

From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.

You could very well right, he did look old against Mayorga even Cotto imo, but Im just saying what if he does win. He still has a chance, I could see shane not alowing Margarito to get in a rythm, and beating him to the punch, if his legs hold up he could pull it off. Im still favoring Tony to win though too.

Whilst I agree that Shane was a shadow of his former self vs Mayorga we must remember that Shane was up against a big, mauling wild guy who was coming down from super middleweight . Shane instead of boxing stood his ground and knocked this guy clean out . Margarito when he moved up just afew pounds to light middle showed he couldnt handle the extra weight vs Dan Santos. Mosley wont be fearful of his strength, moreso his pace and pressure.

Should Shane win ( which I dont think he will ) then I reckon Floyd would take that fight cuz everyone knows Shane and that would sell big. My money would be on PBF on points . Prime for prime I go for Shane

[Taeth]

From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.

You could very well right, he did look old against Mayorga even Cotto imo, but Im just saying what if he does win. He still has a chance, I could see shane not alowing Margarito to get in a rythm, and beating him to the punch, if his legs hold up he could pull it off. Im still favoring Tony to win though too.

Whilst I agree that Shane was a shadow of his former self vs Mayorga we must remember that Shane was up against a big, mauling wild guy who was coming down from super middleweight . Shane instead of boxing stood his ground and knocked this guy clean out . Margarito when he moved up just afew pounds to light middle showed he couldnt handle the extra weight vs Dan Santos. Mosley wont be fearful of his strength, moreso his pace and pressure.

Should Shane win ( which I dont think he will ) then I reckon Floyd would take that fight cuz everyone knows Shane and that would sell big. My money would be on PBF on points . Prime for prime I go for Shane

I don't think Shane is a shadow of his old self at all, I just think big guys aren't his cup of tea, his style suits him way more against boxers and smaller guys than it does againt big puncher types. He is still very fast as the Collazo fight would indicate, he still has very good reflexes, I just feel guys like Vargas, Cotto, and Mayorga would have given him some troubles at any point of his career simply because of their styles.

[Boom Boom]

Well the Collazo fight was nearly 2 years ago and he was 35. Hes 37 now and a couple of years can make a difference. Shane has been looking older every fight imo. Still he could look fast compared to Margarito. I think the biggest question about Shane is his legs. If his legs are gone, he loses this fight. If he can move for 12 rounds, it will be a tough fight for Margarito.

[GAME]

Well the Collazo fight was nearly 2 years ago and he was 35. Hes 37 now and a couple of years can make a difference. Shane has been looking older every fight imo. Still he could look fast compared to Margarito. I think the biggest question about Shane is his legs. If his legs are gone, he loses this fight. If he can move for 12 rounds, it will be a tough fight for Margarito.

Do you think Shane will try and move vs Margarito? i think shane is far more comfortable standing his ground these days. when he was on his toes he was exceptional and i dont think we need to discuss what may have happend if shane was in his prime . that would be a no brainer . . .

at this age though , margarito will be a handful for him . i can see him making it through to the finishing line but only just .

[CFH]

From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.

You could very well right, he did look old against Mayorga even Cotto imo, but Im just saying what if he does win. He still has a chance, I could see shane not alowing Margarito to get in a rythm, and beating him to the punch, if his legs hold up he could pull it off. Im still favoring Tony to win though too.

Whilst I agree that Shane was a shadow of his former self vs Mayorga we must remember that Shane was up against a big, mauling wild guy who was coming down from super middleweight . Shane instead of boxing stood his ground and knocked this guy clean out . Margarito when he moved up just afew pounds to light middle showed he couldnt handle the extra weight vs Dan Santos. Mosley wont be fearful of his strength, moreso his pace and pressure.

Should Shane win ( which I dont think he will ) then I reckon Floyd would take that fight cuz everyone knows Shane and that would sell big. My money would be on PBF on points . Prime for prime I go for Shane

How did he demonstrate that he couldn't handle the extra weight? While I agree Margarito is better at 147, he moved up and fought a very competitive fight against one of the best 154 lb'ers in the world. He hust Santos several times and many people felt he was winning, or on his way to winning, the fight when it was stopped. I think he proved he could handle 154, especially with the paucity of talent in that division when compared to 147; though it has improved dramatically recently.

[GAME]

You could very well right, he did look old against Mayorga even Cotto imo, but Im just saying what if he does win. He still has a chance, I could see shane not alowing Margarito to get in a rythm, and beating him to the punch, if his legs hold up he could pull it off. Im still favoring Tony to win though too.

Whilst I agree that Shane was a shadow of his former self vs Mayorga we must remember that Shane was up against a big, mauling wild guy who was coming down from super middleweight . Shane instead of boxing stood his ground and knocked this guy clean out . Margarito when he moved up just afew pounds to light middle showed he couldnt handle the extra weight vs Dan Santos. Mosley wont be fearful of his strength, moreso his pace and pressure.

Should Shane win ( which I dont think he will ) then I reckon Floyd would take that fight cuz everyone knows Shane and that would sell big. My money would be on PBF on points . Prime for prime I go for Shane

How did he demonstrate that he couldn't handle the extra weight? While I agree Margarito is better at 147, he moved up and fought a very competitive fight against one of the best 154 lb'ers in the world. He hust Santos several times and many people felt he was winning, or on his way to winning, the fight when it was stopped. I think he proved he could handle 154, especially with the paucity of talent in that division when compared to 147; though it has improved dramatically recently.

Well he didnt posess the same authority against the bigger man IMO

Margarito is far more effective at welter where he normally towers over these guys and make them fight at his pace. He couldnt do that up at light middle. His style much like Hattons doesnt move up well. Its meant for smothering smaller men.

[CFH]

Whilst I agree that Shane was a shadow of his former self vs Mayorga we must remember that Shane was up against a big, mauling wild guy who was coming down from super middleweight . Shane instead of boxing stood his ground and knocked this guy clean out . Margarito when he moved up just afew pounds to light middle showed he couldnt handle the extra weight vs Dan Santos. Mosley wont be fearful of his strength, moreso his pace and pressure.

Should Shane win ( which I dont think he will ) then I reckon Floyd would take that fight cuz everyone knows Shane and that would sell big. My money would be on PBF on points . Prime for prime I go for Shane

How did he demonstrate that he couldn't handle the extra weight? While I agree Margarito is better at 147, he moved up and fought a very competitive fight against one of the best 154 lb'ers in the world. He hust Santos several times and many people felt he was winning, or on his way to winning, the fight when it was stopped. I think he proved he could handle 154, especially with the paucity of talent in that division when compared to 147; though it has improved dramatically recently.

Well he didnt posess the same authority against the bigger man IMO

Margarito is far more effective at welter where he normally towers over these guys and make them fight at his pace. He couldnt do that up at light middle. His style much like Hattons doesnt move up well. Its meant for smothering smaller men.

I agree that he is much better at 147. However, I also think that he is more than capable at 154, I feel he demonstrated that in the Santos fight. I wouldn't go so far as to say he proved he couldn't handle the extra weight, just that he's better at 147; aside from that, I can understand where you're coming from though.

[blegit]

From what I saw of Shane last time out, he is done. I'm about the only one on this site who thinks this, but he had terrible trouble with Mayorga and one punch saved his reputation. That power won't be knocking Tony out, but I see that fight as the end of the line for Shane, and I think Tony will give him a one sided beating. The movement in the legs simply wasn't there against Mayorga, and its a tool he'll really need against a pressure puncher like Margarito.

You are not the only one who thinks Mosley is past it. Many people think this. And it is true. He is still competitive but Mosley can no longer outbox top competition and he no longer has that stretch in the championship rounds. His combos are not even there anymore. He throws one and then one two. His powerboxing is gone. Mosley will be a punished boxer against Margarito unless somehow he pulls the cat out of the bag one more time. And the best way to beat Margarito is to go to the body consistently. Maybe Mosley is working on this scheme.