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    Default Weight lifting in training?

    Is it a gd idea for me to do some weights when at the gym or does it prevent mobility as the muscles are tighter? Thanks

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    I like this question because I need the same answer. My trainer says I should just be concerned with my boxing exercise and not weight training because it is going to slow me down. I actually feel better when I lift first and then go through my boxing regiment.

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    Default Re: Weight lifting in training?

    I am not sure I understand the question exactly. Are you referring to doing weights, period, or doing them when you are at the gym for boxing?

    I think you will find most of us are either doing weights, and or body weights along with our cardio. I don't believe they slow you down, but in fact can help increase strength and compliment speed, and especially when done properly. The secret I think, is in the doing it properly. If one is doing only low rep high weight to fail constantly, then you will end up building mass. And mass will slow you down. So higher rep. with lower weight is how I do it. But I do do some lower rep also. And I mix in a lot of body weight exercises (there's a great thread in here with a lot of body weight stuff...i'll link it after I hit post when I can find it.)

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...xcercises.html

    But if you mean when at the boxing gym itself, then personally I wouldn't. I don't generally do much of any workout related stuff when there, so I can maximize my time working on technique and sparring.

    I also want to be strong on those days and make sure my body is functioning as good as possible. So maybe in the morning I might do a cardio workout, and maybe a light body weight exercise routine...but moreover...I save the hard workouts on gaining strength and endurance, for days when off from the actual boxing gym.
    Last edited by Youngblood; 02-02-2009 at 04:59 PM.

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    Default Re: Weight lifting in training?

    A well designed weight training program for boxing is not going to make you slow and tense.
    If you hear a voice within you saying that I am not a painter, then by all means paint and that voice will be silenced.

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    Default Re: Weight lifting in training?

    ^^^ x2 I am much faster with weight training now that I do it properly. You must recognize there are several types of strength:

    1. Maximal (1-5 reps): this strength will make you throw hard punches

    2. Explosive (1-5 reps): this is a lighter load lifted explosively. If you just do maximal strength you might get slower but if you do explosive workouts you will get faster (Now that I can do a behind-the-back clap push-up rather than regular clapping push-ups, my handspeed is noticeably faster)

    3. Repetitive (20+ reps): this will let you throw with power longer. Again this might make you slower if you don't work on explosive strength.

    I used to tran just maximal and repetitive then wondered why I seemed a little slower than usual (not much). I incorperated explosive strength workouts and my speed (and punching power) shot through the roof. Explosive Strength is all about being strong quickly. A punch isn't going to take 2 seconds like a weighted dip will. It will take a fraction of a second like a back-clap push-up.

    As youngblood said, I wouldnt lift at the boxing gym (you could after training your technique, you want to be 100% when boxing).

    look at these websites, Ross Enamait is a boxing trainer and his strength and conditioning workouts are exceptional and geared towards boxing: RossTraining - Bridging The Gap Between Ordinary and Extraordinary and Your Top Source For Free Boxing Training Advice



    Edit/ps. dont work in the 8-15 rep range. This is where mass is developed, stay away from it.

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    Default Re: Weight lifting in training?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa View Post
    Edit/ps. dont work in the 8-15 rep range. This is where mass is developed, stay away from it.
    This is a little misleading. You gain mass by eating more calories than you burn regardless of rep range.

    FWIW i understand what Rocky was trying to say and he has a point that you dont want to train like a bodybuilder unless you want to add muscle, but you can gain just as much mass by lifting in the 1-5 rep range as you can in the 8-10 rep range if you eat more calories than you burn. Diet and conditioning training are key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Nagel View Post
    A well designed weight training program for boxing is not going to make you slow and tense.
    QFT.

    Bruce Lee lifted weights and it didnt slow him down one bit.

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    Default Re: Weight lifting in training?

    A lot of coaches try to persuade against mixing lifting weights with boxing. I think they are just old fashion and/or ignorant. I lifted weights on and off throughout my career and could tell when I was at my best was when I lifted weights. I always felt strong when I was lifting and my handspeed was at least the same. Always do stretches and read up on it to customize your workouts for boxing. Weightlifting is now a part of a high percentage of boxers. You would do yourself justice if you got with the program. Do not let your opponent have an advantage. I actually was lifting quite hard during my training before my last Golden Gloves and the weekend before I won the state bench press championships and broke the record. I won Golden Gloves also. For awhile I was the only weightlifter in my gym but now most of us lift weights. Constantly gauge your weight and I wouldn't recommend taking anything more than a multivitamin and maybe a light protein shake in place of meals if you are cutting weight. Leave creatine and the other mass making supplements alone.

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