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    ...but props to DiBella and Berto if this is true

    Promoter Lou DiBella hoped that Berto would get the fight with Cotto, but now that it looks like he won't, he's working on a Berto title defense for May 30 on HBO's "Boxing After Dark." "I was holding up to see what happens with Cotto, but I've been led to believe he's fighting Clottey, so now I'm talking to HBO about May, but I haven't even gotten to who Andre would fight yet," DiBella told ESPN.com. DiBella said if he could reach him, he'd like to talk to Don King about putting together a rematch with Luis Collazo, who lost a tight decision to Berto in a January slugfest.

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    I think Cotto realizes that stylewise Berto is a bad matchup for him, I am not saying Berto would beat him for sure, but Cotto is open to the uppercut, Berto is a big puncher and Cotto doesn't have a great chin, and Berto can box and is way faster than Cotto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think Cotto realizes that stylewise Berto is a bad matchup for him, I am not saying Berto would beat him for sure, but Cotto is open to the uppercut, Berto is a big puncher and Cotto doesn't have a great chin, and Berto can box and is way faster than Cotto.
    on the flipside to that, Berto gets too sloppy at times, gasses out quick from throwing un-necessary punches, and i know for a fact that if he would fight Cotto the way he fought Collazo, he would have been out by the 4th

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think Cotto realizes that stylewise Berto is a bad matchup for him, I am not saying Berto would beat him for sure, but Cotto is open to the uppercut, Berto is a big puncher and Cotto doesn't have a great chin, and Berto can box and is way faster than Cotto.
    on the flipside to that, Berto gets too sloppy at times, gasses out quick from throwing un-necessary punches, and i know for a fact that if he would fight Cotto the way he fought Collazo, he would have been out by the 4th
    You know for a fact? There's no such thing till after the fight. Also Cotto can't fight like Collazo, who is able to make even some of the best conditioned fighters feel gassed, & Berto showed real character to pull out those championship rounds. Right now I don't think he beats Cotto, unless Cotto does suffer from a post-Margarito breakdown against a top fighter, but in a year or so he would be good enough I think. I think a fight against Quintana would be the next best move, although a rematch with Collazo is good too, I think Berto will simply pull out a stronger victory.

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    If he gives Collazo a rematch big respect to Berto and his team. Luis has well earned it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    If he gives Collazo a rematch big respect to Berto and his team. Luis has well earned it.
    Agreed, It was a good fight as well, not one I would mind seeing a rematch of....

    I am not a Berto fan but the guy is coming along, I think he fights any of the other champions he loses the title for sure but he is willing, game, has heart and strives to improve...# or 4 years I think it might be a polished product we sing the praises of.......

    Plus he has a good attitude which is always good for the face of the sport
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think Cotto realizes that stylewise Berto is a bad matchup for him, I am not saying Berto would beat him for sure, but Cotto is open to the uppercut, Berto is a big puncher and Cotto doesn't have a great chin, and Berto can box and is way faster than Cotto.
    on the flipside to that, Berto gets too sloppy at times, gasses out quick from throwing un-necessary punches, and i know for a fact that if he would fight Cotto the way he fought Collazo, he would have been out by the 4th
    I am not trying to bring the other thread over to this one, but Berto doesn't gas out unless he is in a war, it was Collazo that gased out, watch Berto against Estrada or Forbes, he was staying strong despite having such a tiring style. I agree Berto squres up and gets sloppy, but against Forbes he showed that he could fight very effectively defensively for a while fight, I think he knew Collazo couldn't hurt him, like so other opponents so he was willing to take shots to land shots. I guarantee he would fight better against Cotto, I am not saying he would win, but he wouldn't be sloppy.

    I know for a fact if Cotto got hit by some of those punches Collazo did he would have been knocked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think Cotto realizes that stylewise Berto is a bad matchup for him, I am not saying Berto would beat him for sure, but Cotto is open to the uppercut, Berto is a big puncher and Cotto doesn't have a great chin, and Berto can box and is way faster than Cotto.
    on the flipside to that, Berto gets too sloppy at times, gasses out quick from throwing un-necessary punches, and i know for a fact that if he would fight Cotto the way he fought Collazo, he would have been out by the 4th
    I am not trying to bring the other thread over to this one, but Berto doesn't gas out unless he is in a war, it was Collazo that gased out, watch Berto against Estrada or Forbes, he was staying strong despite having such a tiring style. I agree Berto squres up and gets sloppy, but against Forbes he showed that he could fight very effectively defensively for a while fight, I think he knew Collazo couldn't hurt him, like so other opponents so he was willing to take shots to land shots. I guarantee he would fight better against Cotto, I am not saying he would win, but he wouldn't be sloppy.

    I know for a fact if Cotto got hit by some of those punches Collazo did he would have been knocked out.
    are you kidding me? Berto was dropped by Cosme Rivera, his corner had to cut off his glove between rounds to buy him time, and he was already sucking in wind there, Berto has gassed out on more than one occasion, and to say that Collazo couldn't hurt Berto is just ridiculous, Collazo ROCKED THE SHIT OUT OF BERTO IN THE 1ST ROUND! Cotto isn't chinny at welter, Mosley is a waaaay harder puncher than Collazo at welter and Cotto took his shots very well

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    Wow you are begining to look like an idiot. Berto had no feet behind him when Collazo connected with that left cross, he wasn't hurt at all, just caught off balance, much like Toney was against Roy JOnes in the third round. Berto had a flash knockdown against Rivera, and he didn't need the glove thing, he was fine, and talking fine in the corner that is just a bunch of bs. Also where has he been gased exactly, except in the grueling fight he had with Collazo? The same guy who pushed Hatton to the very limits with far less preparation? Maybe you should watch more boxing, and stop arguing ignorantly about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think Cotto realizes that stylewise Berto is a bad matchup for him, I am not saying Berto would beat him for sure, but Cotto is open to the uppercut, Berto is a big puncher and Cotto doesn't have a great chin, and Berto can box and is way faster than Cotto.
    Mosley was thought to be way faster than Cotto also, and look what happened in the fight. Cotto outjabbed Mosley and more than matched him in the boxing department. You always seem to sell Cotto short.

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    Cotto is a step above Berto and I would see Cotto stopping Berto in 7.....

    Cotto is much to skilled and experienced at this point in their careers, and Cotto will be the hardest and most accurate puncher Berto has faced to day (by a long shot)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think Cotto realizes that stylewise Berto is a bad matchup for him, I am not saying Berto would beat him for sure, but Cotto is open to the uppercut, Berto is a big puncher and Cotto doesn't have a great chin, and Berto can box and is way faster than Cotto.
    Mosley was thought to be way faster than Cotto also, and look what happened in the fight. Cotto outjabbed Mosley and more than matched him in the boxing department. You always seem to sell Cotto short.
    Hey TitoFan sometimes is not worth the time listening to some peoples blindness that dont want to see further thats what in front of them and reality....................

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