Yet another example of astonishing fossil preservation

[Kev]

Rather incredibly the BBC news website reports today how palaeontologists have actually drawn using ink from a 150 million year old squid.

BBC NEWS | UK | England | Wiltshire | Ink found in Jurassic-era squid


So not only is this squid unevolved in over 150 million years of evolution it's ink sac full of ink has remained nice and wet for of all that time, no small achievement considering the nozzles on my last printer clogged and went dry after just a few months

Am I the only person here who is sceptical that ink can remain in a liquid form for over 150 million years? That's one hell of a fucking shelf life I'd like to see Epson manage that

[Kev]

Ha the Daily Mail version says 155 Million years!

Apparently the odds of finding something like an ink sac unfossilised according to the evolutionary scientists is a billion to one, a nice find then.

Best of all it includes a photo of the drawing of the squid made using the actual ink from the sac.

If anyone thinks that ink is 155 million years old........seriously.........

The 150million-year-old squid fossil so perfectly preserved that scientists can make ink from its ink sac | Mail Online

[Kel]

Wow a squid with ink in it


I was hoping for one of those big T-Rex things with a wooly mammoth inside it or sommet.

[Andre]

So does this mean time isnt lineal?

Its is all just one big moment we have been trying to measure from our stupid point of view?


"Hey turn around the future has to be that way "

[Andre]

Wow a squid with ink in it


I was hoping for one of those big T-Rex things with a wooly mammoth inside it or sommet.

Or if it had red or green ink in it,


It would be like : "WOW Squidlips", you've really outdone yourself this time"!

[CGM]

So not only is this squid unevolved in over 150 million years of evolution it's ink sac full of ink has remained nice and wet for of all that time, no small achievement considering the nozzles on my last printer clogged and went dry after just a few months

Am I the only person here who is sceptical that ink can remain in a liquid form for over 150 million years? That's one hell of a fucking shelf life I'd like to see Epson manage that

Did you read the part about how the "ink" had solidified and had to be ground up and mixed with ammonia before they could "draw" with it?

[Andre]

Did the squids ink stink?

[Kev]

So not only is this squid unevolved in over 150 million years of evolution it's ink sac full of ink has remained nice and wet for of all that time, no small achievement considering the nozzles on my last printer clogged and went dry after just a few months

Am I the only person here who is sceptical that ink can remain in a liquid form for over 150 million years? That's one hell of a fucking shelf life I'd like to see Epson manage that

Did you read the part about how the "ink" had solidified and had to be ground up and mixed with ammonia before they could "draw" with it?

Of course it would have solidified, that would have happened within a couple weeks, the point is that it shouldn't have remained at all. They have now found ink, blood cells, proteins, collagen etc that are supposedly tens of millions of years old, substances previously thought to have shelf lives in the thousands of years at best.

They have found unfossilised hadrosaur bones, do you even know how amazing that is? We now have miners hats from less than a hundred years ago completely fossilised yet some hadrosaur and T Rex bones defied the fossilisation process for millions and millions of years.

And now ink can apparently survive for 150,000,000 too.

I wonder how long before they find a prehistoric tomato from 80,000,000 BC that can be rehydrated and fed to some rabbits, and you'll helpfully point it that the tomato was sundried not fresh.

[CGM]

So not only is this squid unevolved in over 150 million years of evolution it's ink sac full of ink has remained nice and wet for of all that time, no small achievement considering the nozzles on my last printer clogged and went dry after just a few months

Am I the only person here who is sceptical that ink can remain in a liquid form for over 150 million years? That's one hell of a fucking shelf life I'd like to see Epson manage that

Did you read the part about how the "ink" had solidified and had to be ground up and mixed with ammonia before they could "draw" with it?

Of course it would have solidified, that would have happened within a couple weeks, the point is that it shouldn't have remained at all. They have now found ink, blood cells, proteins, collagen etc that are supposedly tens of millions of years old, substances previously thought to have shelf lives in the thousands of years at best.

They have found unfossilised hadrosaur bones, do you even know how amazing that is? We now have miners hats from less than a hundred years ago completely fossilised yet some hadrosaur and T Rex bones defied the fossilisation process for millions and millions of years.

And now ink can apparently survive for 150,000,000 too.

I wonder how long before they find a prehistoric tomato from 80,000,000 BC that can be rehydrated and fed to some rabbits, and you'll helpfully point it that the tomato was sundried not fresh.

OK, well you were the one who made such a big deal about being skeptical that the ink could be in liquid form, I was just pointing out that which you had apparently overlooked, which was that no-on in either article made the claim that it was liquid in the first place. If you want to now say of course it was solidified, well the discrepancy is obvious.

Anyways, the "ink" had solidified, more than that, it was fossilized. That much is explicit and clear from the BBC article. . If you want to argue that that is not possible, then take it up with The British Geological Survey, and let us know how it goes.

your comments seem to indicate total cluelessness about the concept of fossilization.

[brucelee]

I don't believe in evolution and little by little, Bilbo is giving me more reasons not to believe it.

Thanks Bilbo.

[Salty]

I don't see how this dispells evolution?

[TheMacMagician]

I don't believe in evolution and little by little, Bilbo is giving me more reasons not to believe it.

Thanks Bilbo.

I'd love to hear more about how you don't believe in Evolution, do you have some madcap list of theories?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I don't believe in evolution and little by little, Bilbo is giving me more reasons not to believe it.

Thanks Bilbo.

Did he buy you a mirror?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Rather incredibly the BBC news website reports today how palaeontologists have actually drawn using ink from a 150 million year old squid.

BBC NEWS | UK | England | Wiltshire | Ink found in Jurassic-era squid


So not only is this squid unevolved in over 150 million years of evolution it's ink sac full of ink has remained nice and wet for of all that time, no small achievement considering the nozzles on my last printer clogged and went dry after just a few months

Am I the only person here who is sceptical that ink can remain in a liquid form for over 150 million years? That's one hell of a fucking shelf life I'd like to see Epson manage that

Which part do you have problems with understanding? The fact that is hasn't evolved or they found ink?

Sharks haven't 'evolved' either, there's a very simple reason for this, hope you're paying attention - there is no need - they are top predators (apart from us) and their environment hasn't really forced change either. Same with squid hope that helps.

Actually the only real change they need to make to kill more humans.

[Kirkland Laing]

Rather incredibly the BBC news website reports today how palaeontologists have actually drawn using ink from a 150 million year old squid.

BBC NEWS | UK | England | Wiltshire | Ink found in Jurassic-era squid


So not only is this squid unevolved in over 150 million years of evolution it's ink sac full of ink has remained nice and wet for of all that time, no small achievement considering the nozzles on my last printer clogged and went dry after just a few months

Am I the only person here who is sceptical that ink can remain in a liquid form for over 150 million years? That's one hell of a fucking shelf life I'd like to see Epson manage that

Which part do you have problems with understanding? The fact that is hasn't evolved or they found ink?

Sharks haven't 'evolved' either, there's a very simple reason for this, hope you're paying attention - there is no need - they are top predators (apart from us) and their environment hasn't really forced change either. Same with squid hope that helps.

Actually the only real change they need to make to kill more humans.

They have evolved, they got smaller.




Of course that tooth is only 6000 years old.