Do you think in our lifetime we'll ever see..

[Hughesd]

one belt for each weight class like in the old days and the scrapping of alphabet titles ? What would it take for it to happen ? And no more bloody catchweight fights ? If you're too small to go up in that weight then dont. If you want to fight a welterweight let him fight at his natural weight. Mayweather actually fighting a proper welterweight ?

[BoomBoom]

No. Just like everything else in the world, business is more coplex and moderation no longer exists. Hundreds of boxing organizations, 4+ champions per division, hell theres a fast food restaurant on every street corner. Its all about being number one an making the most money. Greed. Every organization wants to be #1, the most prestigious, so they would never join forces with another.

[VictorCharlie]

A federal boxing commission in the states that only recognized one belt and only allowed sanctioning fees for that belt would essentially destroy the alphabets. Sure they could operate outside of the US but if you if a fighter can't wear your belt to the ring in Vegas the worth of it is meaningless.

[Preme]

it can only go one way... worse... look at the fucking WBC "diamond belt" for catchweight... even though a catchweight would always fall into a weight class they have brough this shit in for more sanctioning money... MMA will never replace boxing, but because of the way it is rum and the fucked up no rules boxing has it will suck the life out of this once great sport.

[OumaFan]

This is an unbelievably easy question to answer, no. As for catchweights no and its not like their a brand new thing anyway.

[DAWGSWIN]

No. Boxers love straps!

[Spicoli]

Unfortunately no.Too much money,networks wanting "mega fights/events" & too many people with a hand in the till.

[CGM]

A federal boxing commission in the states that only recognized one belt and only allowed sanctioning fees for that belt would essentially destroy the alphabets. Sure they could operate outside of the US but if you if a fighter can't wear your belt to the ring in Vegas the worth of it is meaningless.

And make it illegal for anyone else to offer up title belts? Or rich purses? It's one thing for the government to recognize only one body, It's something else altogether to force everyone else to recognise it. Can you honestly see the government making it illegal to set up rival sanctioning bodies? Or making it illegal for fighters to fight for They would no more do that than they would pass a law making it illegal to start up a new football league, or a new hockey league. Nor should they.

[SweetPea]

No, the sanctioning bodies are here to stay and there will always be multiple belts.

What we can hope for is that more and more top fighters will ignore sanctioning body belts and will focus more on fighting the biggest name opponents for more money instead of fighting worthless mandatory challengers just to hang on to a belt.

[CGM]

No, the sanctioning bodies are here to stay and there will always be multiple belts.

What we can hope for is that more and more top fighters will ignore sanctioning body belts and will focus more on fighting the biggest name opponents for more money instead of fighting worthless mandatory challengers just to hang on to a belt.

I think most hardcore boxing fans would welcome that. But the problem is, there isn't enough big names. to keep the general public interested. Without the draw of the phrase "title fight". You lose a lot of interest from the general public, and boxing can't really afford that.

[generalbulldog]

A federal boxing commission in the states that only recognized one belt and only allowed sanctioning fees for that belt would essentially destroy the alphabets. Sure they could operate outside of the US but if you if a fighter can't wear your belt to the ring in Vegas the worth of it is meaningless.

And make it illegal for anyone else to offer up title belts? Or rich purses? It's one thing for the government to recognize only one body, It's something else altogether to force everyone else to recognise it. Can you honestly see the government making it illegal to set up rival sanctioning bodies? Or making it illegal for fighters to fight for They would no more do that than they would pass a law making it illegal to start up a new football league, or a new hockey league. Nor should they.

You have a great point. Even though all boxing fans don't like the organizational nonsense, it can be much worse. Just take a look at MMA where teh UFC has an almost monopoly on the sport. Their biggest stars only make a few hundred grand compared to the biggest stars in boxing and those guys take considerable risk.

[VictorCharlie]

A federal boxing commission in the states that only recognized one belt and only allowed sanctioning fees for that belt would essentially destroy the alphabets. Sure they could operate outside of the US but if you if a fighter can't wear your belt to the ring in Vegas the worth of it is meaningless.

And make it illegal for anyone else to offer up title belts? Or rich purses? It's one thing for the government to recognize only one body, It's something else altogether to force everyone else to recognise it. Can you honestly see the government making it illegal to set up rival sanctioning bodies? Or making it illegal for fighters to fight for They would no more do that than they would pass a law making it illegal to start up a new football league, or a new hockey league. Nor should they.

You have a great point. Even though all boxing fans don't like the organizational nonsense, it can be much worse. Just take a look at MMA where teh UFC has an almost monopoly on the sport. Their biggest stars only make a few hundred grand compared to the biggest stars in boxing and those guys take considerable risk.

How is the UFC putting on 1-2 fight cards a month comprised of 10 fights and usually exactly the fights the fans want to see for the same price boxing charges for PPV's consisting of 1 to 3 fights tops, not good for the fans?

[VictorCharlie]

A federal boxing commission in the states that only recognized one belt and only allowed sanctioning fees for that belt would essentially destroy the alphabets. Sure they could operate outside of the US but if you if a fighter can't wear your belt to the ring in Vegas the worth of it is meaningless.

And make it illegal for anyone else to offer up title belts? Or rich purses? It's one thing for the government to recognize only one body, It's something else altogether to force everyone else to recognise it. Can you honestly see the government making it illegal to set up rival sanctioning bodies? Or making it illegal for fighters to fight for They would no more do that than they would pass a law making it illegal to start up a new football league, or a new hockey league. Nor should they.

First of all I didn't say it was plausible. The OP asked what would cause the Alphabets to go away and I offered the only possible way I could think of this happening. A federal commision could simply only recognize the Ring belt then there would be no sanctioning fees at all. I don't really see how limiting it to only one belt in the US would damper purses at all. Managers/Promoters/Venues/TV/Public are what make mega deals happen not the shmucks at the WBC/WBA etc. I don't recall fighters prior to the proliferation of belts and orgs complaining about their paychecks nor would they now. Boxing could use a good dose of regulation considering its state.

[CGM]

A federal boxing commission in the states that only recognized one belt and only allowed sanctioning fees for that belt would essentially destroy the alphabets. Sure they could operate outside of the US but if you if a fighter can't wear your belt to the ring in Vegas the worth of it is meaningless.

And make it illegal for anyone else to offer up title belts? Or rich purses? It's one thing for the government to recognize only one body, It's something else altogether to force everyone else to recognise it. Can you honestly see the government making it illegal to set up rival sanctioning bodies? Or making it illegal for fighters to fight for They would no more do that than they would pass a law making it illegal to start up a new football league, or a new hockey league. Nor should they.

First of all I didn't say it was plausible. The OP asked what would cause the Alphabets to go away and I offered the only possible way I could think of this happening. A federal commision could simply only recognize the Ring belt then there would be no sanctioning fees at all. I don't really see how limiting it to only one belt in the US would damper purses at all. Managers/Promoters/Venues/TV/Public are what make mega deals happen not the shmucks at the WBC/WBA etc. I don't recall fighters prior to the proliferation of belts and orgs complaining about their paychecks nor would they now. Boxing could use a good dose of regulation considering its state.

ok fair enough, I thought you were offering it up as a solution, and I was just saying there is no way the US government would, or should, do that. But no big deal.

[Dark Lord Al]

one belt for each weight class like in the old days and the scrapping of alphabet titles ? What would it take for it to happen ? And no more bloody catchweight fights ? If you're too small to go up in that weight then dont. If you want to fight a welterweight let him fight at his natural weight. Mayweather actually fighting a proper welterweight ?

Yes and the sugar plumb fairy will hand out free candy ,for all of us who live in magic land !