3 things - 1 Pac is inhuman- 2- How good must marquez be - 3-Mayweather!

[oakleyno1]

thoughts?

im slowly getting into the fatc that pac v mayweather could happen and pac cou,ld win

BUT

my head tells me im so wrong and pac would go the same way as marquez, the distance but an easy win for mayweather

[Majesty]

Boxing is about styles and where people are mentally. Hence why I picked Pacquiao to decimate Cotto.

But Pacquiao would get decimated by Mayweather.

Compared to Marquez, Mayweather is a better counter puncher, has better timing, is faster, is bigger, and hits harder. I think Mayweather would decimate Pacquiao. But the only thing people will say is that Mayweather doesn't look good vs southpaws. But i doubt that would make much of a difference since Pacquiao squares up.

But Mayweather is too good for Pacquiao because of how he locks down with his style, he would shut Pacquiao down. Arum knows that too. Unless Mayweather gets there first Pacquiao will be fighting Mosley or Berto.

[Dark Lord Al]

Boxing is about styles and where people are mentally. Hence why I picked Pacquiao to decimate Cotto.

But Pacquiao would get decimated by Mayweather.

Compared to Marquez, Mayweather is a better counter puncher, has better timing, is faster, is bigger, and hits harder. I think Mayweather would decimate Pacquiao. But the only thing people will say is that Mayweather doesn't look good vs southpaws. But i doubt that would make much of a difference since Pacquiao squares up.

But Mayweather is too good for Pacquiao because of how he locks down with his style, he would shut Pacquiao down. Arum knows that too. Unless Mayweather gets there first Pacquiao will be fighting Mosley or Berto.

styles make fights

[fan johnny]

Marquez and Mayweather are both counter punchers but Mayweather is an outside boxer while Marquez stands toe to toe. Marquez can't cope with outside boxers. How Pacquaio copes with the outside counter punching of Mayweather remains to be seen.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

It's all about the speed. If pac has more speed than mayweather, he'll win. Mayweather will give pac trouble like cotto gave him trouble by running constantly. Pac didn't land many punches when cotto ran for the last 3 rounds.

[rjj tszyu]

Boxing is about styles and where people are mentally. Hence why I picked Pacquiao to decimate Cotto.

But Pacquiao would get decimated by Mayweather.

Compared to Marquez, Mayweather is a better counter puncher, has better timing, is faster, is bigger, and hits harder. I think Mayweather would decimate Pacquiao. But the only thing people will say is that Mayweather doesn't look good vs southpaws. But i doubt that would make much of a difference since Pacquiao squares up.

But Mayweather is too good for Pacquiao because of how he locks down with his style, he would shut Pacquiao down. Arum knows that too. Unless Mayweather gets there first Pacquiao will be fighting Mosley or Berto.

That is exactly how I see Mayweather - Pac. I think Mayweathers style is all wrong for Pac and because of Pacs agressive tendencies when he is starting to get tagged i actually see Mayweather stopping Pac.

[Nameless]

Boxing is about styles and where people are mentally. Hence why I picked Pacquiao to decimate Cotto.

But Pacquiao would get decimated by Mayweather.

Compared to Marquez, Mayweather is a better counter puncher, has better timing, is faster, is bigger, and hits harder. I think Mayweather would decimate Pacquiao. But the only thing people will say is that Mayweather doesn't look good vs southpaws. But i doubt that would make much of a difference since Pacquiao squares up.

But Mayweather is too good for Pacquiao because of how he locks down with his style, he would shut Pacquiao down. Arum knows that too. Unless Mayweather gets there first Pacquiao will be fighting Mosley or Berto.

That is exactly how I see Mayweather - Pac. I think Mayweathers style is all wrong for Pac and because of Pacs agressive tendencies when he is starting to get tagged i actually see Mayweather stopping Pac.

IF Cotto didn't flat down Pacman, you can be sure that Mayweather can't, especially as he's a really careful boxer who doesn't like to trade and their respective punching power has nothing in common.

[SRR]

Boxing is about styles and where people are mentally. Hence why I picked Pacquiao to decimate Cotto.

But Pacquiao would get decimated by Mayweather.

Compared to Marquez, Mayweather is a better counter puncher, has better timing, is faster, is bigger, and hits harder. I think Mayweather would decimate Pacquiao. But the only thing people will say is that Mayweather doesn't look good vs southpaws. But i doubt that would make much of a difference since Pacquiao squares up.

But Mayweather is too good for Pacquiao because of how he locks down with his style, he would shut Pacquiao down. Arum knows that too. Unless Mayweather gets there first Pacquiao will be fighting Mosley or Berto.

That is exactly how I see Mayweather - Pac. I think Mayweathers style is all wrong for Pac and because of Pacs agressive tendencies when he is starting to get tagged i actually see Mayweather stopping Pac.

IF Cotto didn't flat down Pacman, you can be sure that Mayweather can't, especially as he's a really careful boxer who doesn't like to trade and their respective punching power has nothing in common.

I'm not sure about this. On one or two occasions Cotto caught Manny coming in, and Manny looked stunned for a moment, though his legs held. What's going to happen if Mayweather hits him every time he jumps in to unleash one of those trademark flurries? And we all know Mayweather is capable of doing it, too. Did you see the state of Manny's face after the fight, btw? Cotto didn't even land that many shots, but he still looks like he's fallen down a flight of stairs. Also, when Cotto kept to boxing, tucked his chin in and had his guard high he got the better of Manny [before the second knockdown, after which he went totally defensive]. Mayweather can box far better [on or off the back foot] than Cotto, so I could see Manny getting badly hurt, though whether he would be stopped really depends on whether Mayweather wants to try and finish him or not. I think if he caught Manny and Pac was set off-balance/wobbled/dazed for a moment, Mayweather would be all over him trying to KO him and cement his 'legacy'. He would definitely win on points otherwise, imo, for a few reasons:

1. Manny struggles with good boxers [Morales, Marquez and even Cotto for a few rounds], and particularly counter-punchers who are able to hurt him on the way in.
2. PBF is just as fast as Pac.
3. Manny has never fought anyone as defensively sound as Mayweather.
4. Even though everything was stacked against Marquez [weight, age, hand-speed] Mayweather made him look average after being outside of the ring for over a year. This is a man who arguably beat Manny, and at the very least, offered a stern challenge that he only just overcame by the good grace of the judges.
5. Styles do make fights, and Manny's is perfectly suited to PBF's. This will be the bull vs the matador, and, whilst it would only take one mistake for PBF to get mauled, I don't see it happening - the matador rarely loses, as Floyd's record reflects.

[OumaFan]

You know with all the comparisons between how Floyd versus Pacquaio would go as opposed to Pacquaio-JMM you can see a difference between the two in SRR's sig.

If Manny starts his work from too far and lunges he's gonna create some openings for Floyd but Floyd most likely wouldn't even throw that second punch that really got Manny's attention in that video, the left hook, JMM counters in combination and very accurately which is pretty rare, Floyd would have most likely just thrown a counter right and tried to get out of the way. JMM is a much more offensive counter puncher than Floyd, anytime Manny made a mistake he could be punished with multiple shots by JMM, not sure that's the case with Floyd.

Still Floyd could win definitely, just not sure if he could do it one shot at a time and play defense. It won't be anything like the JMM fight size or not, JMM just can't play to his strengths against a guy like Floyd. Make him come forward and lead, especially against a guy like Floyd, and he's lost.

[OumaFan]

LOL at Mayweather decimating Pacquaio. Will it be just like the Gatti fight or just like the Chavez fight?

[Majesty]

LOL at Mayweather decimating Pacquaio. Will it be just like the Gatti fight or just like the Chavez fight?

I was right about Pacquiao decimating Cotto in a one sided fight.

Pacquao would get dominated by Mayweather badly. Maybe give him some issues in the first 2 rounds but that will be the end of it.

Mayweather won't stand toe to toe like Marquez did but he will counter the hell out of Pacquiao the same way. Mayweather also has a good consistant jab, something no one has used against Pacquiao. Jabs offset speed and Mayweathers timing AND speed make a problem. Pacquiao has showed against Marquez, his rhythm can be found out and he can be timed. Mayweather has better timng is faster and hts harder then Marquez and he's bigger. Pacquao has tendencies when he bounces out and and in to do it with his hands down and thats why Marquez would catch hm coming out. Mayweather would do it a lot worse. Cotto did it for one round and only with one left hook.

Pacquiao can't deal with counter punchers that have a composed mind and great timing like Marquez, Mayweather s better in every way then Marquez and is a bad style matchup for Pacquiao.

I stand by this like I stood by my prediction for Cotto and Pacquiao. If Pacquiao and Mayweather ever fight Pacquiao is going to get destroyed.

[belakbox]

I agree that Marquez gave Pac two tough fights. I was fine with the draw for the first fight and I thought Pac won the 2nd.

After last nights performance I'm convinced that a the ole counter puncher can beat Pac theory is no longer valid.

The man has filled the holes he had and has literally grown physically and in skill with each fight. He's not the same fighter that fought Marquez.

Mayweather is capable of a win with out a doubt, but I'm back to picking Pac for this matchup. Best of luck to both fighters though.

[Rantcatrat]

LOL at Mayweather decimating Pacquaio. Will it be just like the Gatti fight or just like the Chavez fight?

I was right about Pacquiao decimating Cotto in a one sided fight.

Pacquao would get dominated by Mayweather badly. Maybe give him some issues in the first 2 rounds but that will be the end of it.

Mayweather won't stand toe to toe like Marquez did but he will counter the hell out of Pacquiao the same way. Mayweather also has a good consistant jab, something no one has used against Pacquiao. Jabs offset speed and Mayweathers timing AND speed make a problem. Pacquiao has showed against Marquez, his rhythm can be found out and he can be timed. Mayweather has better timng is faster and hts harder then Marquez and he's bigger. Pacquao has tendencies when he bounces out and and in to do it with his hands down and thats why Marquez would catch hm coming out. Mayweather would do it a lot worse. Cotto did it for one round and only with one left hook.

Pacquiao can't deal with counter punchers that have a composed mind and great timing like Marquez, Mayweather s better in every way then Marquez and is a bad style matchup for Pacquiao.

I stand by this like I stood by my prediction for Cotto and Pacquiao. If Pacquiao and Mayweather ever fight Pacquiao is going to get destroyed.

Destroyed is a strong word. Mayweather should beat Pac and will be the favorite going into the fight. But, Pac walked through Cotto's punches and I don't think Mayweather hits as hard or harder than Cotto. A bigger Pac would beat Mayweather. Pac will have trouble getting to Mayweather because of his size and that should spell his downfall. The fight itself won't be half as fun to watch as Pac v. Cotto. I know the Mayweather fight must happen, but to me Pac v. Mosley sounds like a more fun boxing match to watch.

Great article on Pac v. Cotto by Graham Houston: THAT WAS PHENOMENAL: Manny Pacquiao TKO12 Miguel Cotto | FightWriter
This is how he ended the article: "but I can tell you that as I left the MGM Grand Garden Arena on Saturday night it was with the feeling that I had been privileged to have seen one of the great performances in modern boxing history."

One more thing. Pac beating Mayweather is bigger for Pac's legacy than Mayweather beating Pac is for Mayweather.

[skel1983]

LOL at Mayweather decimating Pacquaio. Will it be just like the Gatti fight or just like the Chavez fight?

I was right about Pacquiao decimating Cotto in a one sided fight.

Pacquao would get dominated by Mayweather badly. Maybe give him some issues in the first 2 rounds but that will be the end of it.

Mayweather won't stand toe to toe like Marquez did but he will counter the hell out of Pacquiao the same way. Mayweather also has a good consistant jab, something no one has used against Pacquiao. Jabs offset speed and Mayweathers timing AND speed make a problem. Pacquiao has showed against Marquez, his rhythm can be found out and he can be timed. Mayweather has better timng is faster and hts harder then Marquez and he's bigger. Pacquao has tendencies when he bounces out and and in to do it with his hands down and thats why Marquez would catch hm coming out. Mayweather would do it a lot worse. Cotto did it for one round and only with one left hook.

Pacquiao can't deal with counter punchers that have a composed mind and great timing like Marquez, Mayweather s better in every way then Marquez and is a bad style matchup for Pacquiao.

I stand by this like I stood by my prediction for Cotto and Pacquiao. If Pacquiao and Mayweather ever fight Pacquiao is going to get destroyed.

Maybe you want to remind us that you got the Cotto fight rite once again??

Give it a fucking rest you predict a fight rite and now you think your fucking some boxing expert, Pac destroyed by Mayweather hahahahaha give your head a fucking wobble, when the fight happens I will bring this post up.

[generalbulldog]

Boxing is about styles and where people are mentally. Hence why I picked Pacquiao to decimate Cotto.

But Pacquiao would get decimated by Mayweather.

Compared to Marquez, Mayweather is a better counter puncher, has better timing, is faster, is bigger, and hits harder. I think Mayweather would decimate Pacquiao. But the only thing people will say is that Mayweather doesn't look good vs southpaws. But i doubt that would make much of a difference since Pacquiao squares up.

But Mayweather is too good for Pacquiao because of how he locks down with his style, he would shut Pacquiao down. Arum knows that too. Unless Mayweather gets there first Pacquiao will be fighting Mosley or Berto.

Yes, styles do make fights, but here's the thing you are forgetting. Just because fighter A loses to fighter B and fighter B loses to fighter C doesn't mean fighter A will lose to fighter C. Case in point. Ali lost to Frazier, Frazier lost to Foreman, therefore it was widely predicted Ali would lose to Foreman, we all know what happened. Or how about the recent welterweight matches? Mosely loses to Cotto, Cotto loses to Margarito, therefore Mosely would lose to Margarito right? It didn't happen that way.