Should Manny Pac go ahead with the blood test?

[Gandalf]

This thread is a spin off of the other one debating the pros and cons of the latest Pac/PBF hiccup. Seemingly Arum is now saying the fight is off. I think both fighters should meet their obligations really. Floyd must keep to the set weight, but I also think that Manny should adhere to rigorous drug testing if that is what Floyd wants. If both men are submitting the test then I don't really see Manny's argument for refusing.

So, just a simple poll to see where opinions are at. Should Manny go with the full drug check, or is he right to say no?

[rjj tszyu]

Well if it was me and I was not using steroids I would agree immediatley to set up the biggest payday of my career and setup one of the biggest fights in history.

Funny thing is, after all the demands Pacs team have made in his last few fights regarding weights and so on, when they recieve a demand themselves they go running. I really hope he is not a steroid user as he seems such a good ambassador for the sport but I have to admit that the reaction to Mayweathers demands (which Floyd has agreed to do himself) have got me seriously wondering about Pac. Then again maybe he see's it as an easy way out of a good beating

[blegit]

Well if it was me and I was not using steroids I would agree immediatley to set up the biggest payday of my career and setup one of the biggest fights in history.

Funny thing is, after all the demands Pacs team have made in his last few fights regarding weights and so on, when they recieve a demand themselves they go running. I really hope he is not a steroid user as he seems such a good ambassador for the sport but I have to admit that the reaction to Mayweathers demands (which Floyd has agreed to do himself) have got me seriously wondering about Pac. Then again maybe he see's it as an easy way out of a good beating

I have to agree with everything but the last part. I am starting to get suspicious myself now. I don't think it is that Pac is afraid to fight PBF. The blood testing refusal, which is the most reliable way to go for steroids, is undeniably suspicious. There is no real reason to not submit to blood testing. It will only back up your innocence or guilt.

[robinswe01]

Does having some blood taken affect your athletic performance? If it doesn't there is absolutely no reason what so ever not to have a blood test. Even if it does affect you a little, it will be cancelled out if the Mayweather has one too as he would experience the same thing.
Seems very fishy to me.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.


Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

Anyway, wouldn't it be better to test this way? If Manny or Floyd wanted to cheat, they could do it 29 days before the fight. Allegedly, Aaron Pryor did it 3 minutes before the end of one of his fights

[robinswe01]

I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.

Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

Because (I think) there would be enough time between the press conference and the fight to use performance enhancing drugs and the there be no trace after the fight.

Usain Bolt was tested about 5 - 6 times during the Olympics and it didn’t affect him. If you have nothing to hide, why refuse especially if it denies him the biggest payday of his career.

[Preme]

I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.


Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

Anyway, wouldn't it be better to test this way? If Manny or Floyd wanted to cheat, they could do it 29 days before the fight. Allegedly, Aaron Pryor did it 3 minutes before the end of one of his fights

haven't read what the other people who vote no have said but

this is one of the most stupid fucking posts i have ever read...

plain and simple, if he has nothing to hide, why say no? Its not like floyd is asking him to do something he isnt....

take Bolt, the were drug testing him on an almost daillys basis, had zero affect on what he done as his smashed every record by a MILE

so pac has no excuse what so ever

and lets be honest, him and his team have done everything the can to get a fight on their tearms, making Cotto the CHAMPION fight at a catchweight...

he either has something to hide or is looking for an excuse not to face floyd.

[Zilla]

Being a huge Mayweather fan I have to say no. These requirements are aimed at nothing but insulting Pac. Everything they can test for can be detected in urine and drawing blood can affect hydration. There's no need for it, do random testing on urine and everyone should be happy.

[robinswe01]

Being a huge Mayweather fan I have to say no. These requirements are aimed at nothing but insulting Pac. Everything they can test for can be detected in urine and drawing blood can affect hydration. There's no need for it, do random testing on urine and everyone should be happy.

Urine testing doesn't detect the number of red blood cells. To do this, a blood sample is needed. Drugs like EPO boost red blood cell production.

[Tysonbruno]

i voted yes lets just get this fight made

[Nameless]

As much as I agree with Manny that the contract should stipulate a huge amount of money per extra pound (just to not pull another Marquez-a-like trick), 10 millions per pound was highly exaggerated. Greedy punky Floyd accepted. TO accept an olympic test in return is not over-exaggerated. If it's good for Olympian, why couldn't it good for boxers as well?
To me, the argument that it would be a "premiere" is not exactly good enough to justify a total no to the whole thing. As a matter of fact, I would even be in favor that any significant match should be tested in that way.
as much as I dislike Floyd, if ever he has doubts, considering the huge size of the event, it is not an impossible demand. I don't know if Manny really refused of if it is a misunderstanding but for such money and considering that all his previous demands have been fulfilled, I do not see why what Floyd demands here should be ignored as it concerns both fighters and it is not something that will significantly play against Manny. Except if he has something to hide, of course.

[Majesty]

Funny how everyone who kept saying Mayweather would be the one looking for ways out of the fight and his claims of Manny doing steroids were stupid. It comes time for Manny to step up and prove Mayweather wrong and he backs out. It seems shady.

[Mar]

...of course not. Only floyd should have to jump through hoops. This guy can fight but he can't take a couple of extra blood test ?? I've heard of homeless people giving blood two or three times a day for 50 bucks. Now pac can't take the test for 25 ga-zillion. Sounds fishy. Especially with him being around people involved with roids in the past.

[cnote111]

...of course not. Only floyd should have to jump through hoops. This guy can fight but he can't take a couple of extra blood test ?? I've heard of homeless people giving blood two or three times a day for 50 bucks. Now pac can't take the test for 25 ga-zillion. Sounds fishy. Especially with him being around people involved with roids in the past.

What hoops? are you kidding me?

Hey Floyd don't cheat and purposely come in overweight to create an advantage... oh yea that is a huge f-ing hurdle... Must be horrible to do such things...

[generalbulldog]

Roach suggested a compromise, saying he would allow Pacquiao to give a blood sample one week before the fight, but no closer than three days before the bout.

Mayweather seeks strict drug testing for bout with Pacquiao -- latimes.com
So that's a compromise right there. Now get the fight on.