Should Manny Pac go ahead with the blood test?

[rjj tszyu]

Well if it was me and I was not using steroids I would agree immediatley to set up the biggest payday of my career and setup one of the biggest fights in history.

Funny thing is, after all the demands Pacs team have made in his last few fights regarding weights and so on, when they recieve a demand themselves they go running. I really hope he is not a steroid user as he seems such a good ambassador for the sport but I have to admit that the reaction to Mayweathers demands (which Floyd has agreed to do himself) have got me seriously wondering about Pac. Then again maybe he see's it as an easy way out of a good beating

[blegit]

Well if it was me and I was not using steroids I would agree immediatley to set up the biggest payday of my career and setup one of the biggest fights in history.

Funny thing is, after all the demands Pacs team have made in his last few fights regarding weights and so on, when they recieve a demand themselves they go running. I really hope he is not a steroid user as he seems such a good ambassador for the sport but I have to admit that the reaction to Mayweathers demands (which Floyd has agreed to do himself) have got me seriously wondering about Pac. Then again maybe he see's it as an easy way out of a good beating

I have to agree with everything but the last part. I am starting to get suspicious myself now. I don't think it is that Pac is afraid to fight PBF. The blood testing refusal, which is the most reliable way to go for steroids, is undeniably suspicious. There is no real reason to not submit to blood testing. It will only back up your innocence or guilt.

[robinswe01]

Does having some blood taken affect your athletic performance? If it doesn't there is absolutely no reason what so ever not to have a blood test. Even if it does affect you a little, it will be cancelled out if the Mayweather has one too as he would experience the same thing.
Seems very fishy to me.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.


Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

Anyway, wouldn't it be better to test this way? If Manny or Floyd wanted to cheat, they could do it 29 days before the fight. Allegedly, Aaron Pryor did it 3 minutes before the end of one of his fights

[robinswe01]

I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.

Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

Because (I think) there would be enough time between the press conference and the fight to use performance enhancing drugs and the there be no trace after the fight.

Usain Bolt was tested about 5 - 6 times during the Olympics and it didn’t affect him. If you have nothing to hide, why refuse especially if it denies him the biggest payday of his career.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.

Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

Because (I think) there would be enough time between the press conference and the fight to use performance enhancing drugs and the there be no trace after the fight.

Usain Bolt was tested about 5 - 6 times during the Olympics and it didn’t affect him. If you have nothing to hide, why refuse especially if it denies him the biggest payday of his career.

Usain Bolt? Blood Tests? Really?!
That's a lot of blood, are you sure about that?

To be honest, i assumed taking blood from Manny during training would affect him, in some way. But i'm happy to be proven wrong on this one i guess.

But really, 5 - 6 times...!? I'd be offended to the point of resignation

[JazMerkin]

I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.

Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

Because (I think) there would be enough time between the press conference and the fight to use performance enhancing drugs and the there be no trace after the fight.

Usain Bolt was tested about 5 - 6 times during the Olympics and it didn’t affect him. If you have nothing to hide, why refuse especially if it denies him the biggest payday of his career.

Usain Bolt? Blood Tests? Really?!
That's a lot of blood, are you sure about that?

To be honest, i assumed taking blood from Manny during training would affect him, in some way. But i'm happy to be proven wrong on this one i guess.

But really, 5 - 6 times...!? I'd be offended to the point of resignation

Jim,

They take the equivalent of less than a tablespoon of blood. According to the USADA who would administer the tests, it replaces itself within an hour at most. Bolt was tested 6 times in the space of 10 days I believe. Still made no difference to him.

The key points about it weakening Manny are offset anyway by the fact Mayweather will have exactly the same test on the same day as Manny. So unless he has special regenerating powers, it will affect him just the same.

Also there are two reasons why they shouldn't be allowed to set the times when they take the tests. One is that you can cycle the PEDs to fit the testing schedule, it's like say you were growing weed in your garden & you knew exactly when the Police were coming round, you wouldn't leave it open to viewing at that time would you. The other is the use of masking agents. These can be administered to cover any type of PED in the blood & urine, however you wouldn't want to use it throughout training as many of them lead to dehydration or nausea. You could however administer it directly after a fight to cover anything taken as is my understanding.

Anyway, I'm not saying Manny is doing this, hopefully this gets resolved, but if he ignores a $40m payday because of this, there will be serious questions.

[robinswe01]

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To be honest, i assumed taking blood from Manny during training would affect him, in some way. But i'm happy to be proven wrong on this one i guess.

Mayweather isn't asking for the drugs testing to be exclusively for Pacquiao. He will undergo the same tests so would be affected equally.
Do you think it is at all suspicious that he isn't willing to be tested closer to the fight?

[Preme]

I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.


Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

Anyway, wouldn't it be better to test this way? If Manny or Floyd wanted to cheat, they could do it 29 days before the fight. Allegedly, Aaron Pryor did it 3 minutes before the end of one of his fights

haven't read what the other people who vote no have said but

this is one of the most stupid fucking posts i have ever read...

plain and simple, if he has nothing to hide, why say no? Its not like floyd is asking him to do something he isnt....

take Bolt, the were drug testing him on an almost daillys basis, had zero affect on what he done as his smashed every record by a MILE

so pac has no excuse what so ever

and lets be honest, him and his team have done everything the can to get a fight on their tearms, making Cotto the CHAMPION fight at a catchweight...

he either has something to hide or is looking for an excuse not to face floyd.