Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

[toe2toe]

Clottey said Pacquiao doesn't hit hard then why he's reluctant to engage?

[blegit]

De la Hoya said the same thing. They are talking about pure one punch power. Pac overwhelms his opponents with barrages of punches from all angles. Thats what does the trick. And Clottey always waits for his turn to punch. Pac doesn't give you a turn. This fight was very predictable.

[rowza]

not been disrespectful but how can you say it was predictable? alot of people on here and in the boxing world said pacman pushed it to far and will struggle with clotty :/

[toe2toe]

Is Clottey reluctant to engage? Afraid to engage? Or has less openings to engage?

[DaxxKahn]

Is Clottey reluctant to engage? Afraid to engage? Or has less openings to engage?

Pacquiao just doesn't give time to engage...Look at most fighters or fights...One guy gets off with his combo steps back resets in the meantime looks to avoid getting hit....

With Manny he throws 5,6,7,8 or more punches at a time and just as he steps back he is in again...He never stops coming add that with speed you miss and it allws him to get in 2 or 3 clear shots w no defense to cushion the blow...Just too much at one time

[Conrad]

Not re-watched the fight sober yet but although I was annoyed at Clottey for covering up and throwing nothing at all, Pac did make it very difficult for him. Literally every time Glottey dropped his shoulders to throw something Pac was already on him. Pac gives you absolutely no time at all...

Where as Pac may not hit as hard as other fighters at this weight/level he's definietly one of if not the quickest! This more than makes up for any supposed lack of power.

On a side note, has the tread starter got a link to this comment as I haven't read that anywhere? A good judge of Pac's power would be Cotto and do remember him saying how surprised he was at Pac's power...

[Gandalf]

not been disrespectful but how can you say it was predictable? alot of people on here and in the boxing world said pacman pushed it to far and will struggle with clotty :/

No matter how much some of us wanted Clottey to produce something, most of us knew what would happen. It was predictable. You knew Clottey wouldn't throw many punches nor take the fight to Manny. And you knew Manny would likely throw a hundred punches a round as a consequence. A wide points win was always the most likely result.

[blegit]

not been disrespectful but how can you say it was predictable? alot of people on here and in the boxing world said pacman pushed it to far and will struggle with clotty :/

Who are all these people who said Pac pushed it too far by fighting Clottey? Clottey Clottey has only registered 1 KO in his last 12 fights. He wasn't going to outbox Pac. Pac had already KO'd De la Hoya, Hatton, and Cotto. Clottey is the most stationary and the least offensive fighter Pac has faced. Read the threads. I and many other people predicted Pac to win by easy decision or late round stoppage. How could you not have seen this coming? What did you see in Clottey or Pac that made you think differently? I hope you weren't just going with blind hope.

[ElTerribleMorales]

not been disrespectful but how can you say it was predictable? alot of people on here and in the boxing world said pacman pushed it to far and will struggle with clotty :/

Who are all these people who said Pac pushed it too far by fighting Clottey? Clottey Clottey has only registered 1 KO in his last 12 fights. He wasn't going to outbox Pac. Pac had already KO'd De la Hoya, Hatton, and Cotto. Clottey is the most stationary and the least offensive fighter Pac has faced. Read the threads. I and many other people predicted Pac to win by easy decision or late round stoppage. How could you not have seen this coming? What did you see in Clottey or Pac that made you think differently? I hope you weren't just going with blind hope.

exactly, there was a "I'm PRAYING for a Clottey Victory" thread for a reason, cause it would have taken a miracle for Clottey to win

[RozzySean]

What killed me about that fight was that Clottey would land and get Manny of the defensive. Pac would back off and cover up, and Clottey gave him the time and space to recover. He was landing well. He did some damage to Pac and he could have done more if he would have just followed up his own work.

[Gandalf]

I don't think Manny does hit that hard. It's the volume and speed that overwhelms people and they can't keep up. I think the Hatton KO was so bad because Hatton's chin has been on the wane since Tyszu. Collazo nearly had him, Urango rocked him to the body, Mayweather did a double KO and even Lazcano had him wobbly. Stick him in with Manny who has pop and punches from angles you aren't expecting and out you go. Cotto has holes in his chin and has been regularly checked on his way up, but it was the ref who stopped it, Cotto would have got through the round. DLH wasn't knocked down and simply quit and Clottey made it through by not punching back. Manny has power, but I don't think he has the same one punch power of a fighter like Mosley.

[Spicoli]

His problem wasn't being hit hard it was being hit so often and not being willing to punch through it or at all.Easy to say from the living room,I know but its a pattern with him.He had Cotto all but gone and I believe there to be finished.He eases and is too content,seems he just wants to be share the spotlight rather than attempt to take it for himself.

[toe2toe]

Clottey's face always looked good even in his losing fights. Against Pacquiao (tho I think Clottey has a broken nose), against Cotto, against Margarito, against Baldomir. Clottey's face looked unscatched in those fights he lost.

[OumaFan]

Manny's power at this weight has been surprising to me (therein lies the drugs argument), so I disagree with the thought that its just speed and angles. Hatton's chin was on the wane but that was an ungodly KO. He hurt Cotto badly, capital letters BADLY, with single punches. Only reason Cotto survived as much as he did was he got on his bike big time. ODLH and Clottey have always been very durable guys so its not surprising he didn't KO them with one shot or many shots but he got their attention without a doubt.

[Greig]

I don't think Manny does hit that hard. It's the volume and speed that overwhelms people and they can't keep up. I think the Hatton KO was so bad because Hatton's chin has been on the wane since Tyszu. Collazo nearly had him, Urango rocked him to the body, Mayweather did a double KO and even Lazcano had him wobbly. Stick him in with Manny who has pop and punches from angles you aren't expecting and out you go. Cotto has holes in his chin and has been regularly checked on his way up, but it was the ref who stopped it, Cotto would have got through the round. DLH wasn't knocked down and simply quit and Clottey made it through by not punching back. Manny has power, but I don't think he has the same one punch power of a fighter like Mosley.

Great quote in that film Facing Ali - I can't remember who it was from, perhaps Ron Lyle?

Anyway, he's trying to describe the difference between Foreman and Frazier. He says: "Getting hit by George is like getting hit by a truck doing 30 miles an hour, while getting hit by Joe is like getting hit by a Pontiac doing 70 miles an hour. They both hurt, but it's different."