So have we just lost potentially one of the best fighters ever..?

[smashup]

Edwin Valero is the only fighter in History to have a 100% KO Record and is in the Guiness book of records for the most consecutive KO's also.

Would he have battered Manny down with his ferocious power..?

That fight was 100% on the horizon no question.

This 5 min highlight video has got some fierce KO's and he's not just knocking them out he's battering them unconcious with some sickening shots , head and body.

Check it out......... and what a waste of a fighter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcbLZE-NcgE

[Kev]

I have to say with his drink and drug problems I really doubt it.

I mean even if he had not killed his wife and then himself, it's probable that his substance abuse and problems outside the ring would have led to him getting beaten inside it soon enough.

But if you mean a Valero clean of drink and drugs, and focused fully on fighting, then yeah he could have been really really special.

Sad loss.

[Phil]

I have to say with his drink and drug problems I really doubt it.

I mean even if he had not killed his wife and then himself, it's probable that his substance abuse and problems outside the ring would have led to him getting beaten inside it soon enough.

But if you mean a Valero clean of drink and drugs, and focused fully on fighting, then yeah he could have been really really special.

Sad loss.

Yeah I agree with that, if he could have got himself clean I think he'd have been the real deal. He would never have been in a dull fight either, real sad story...

[Zilla]

I want to just hang this out there- anyone think Valero's drug use may have played a part in his success in the ring?

[piye]

No let's not overrate this bum, he fought with his chin in the air and was a knockout waiting to happen.

[ICB]

No let's not overrate this bum, he fought with his chin in the air and was a knockout waiting to happen.

Give me a break he had good handspeed, crushing power. And when he chose to box he looked somewhat like a young Manny Pacquiao. He for certain could of been one of the greats of this era.

Just because the guy was a scumbag doesn't mean he was a bum, the guy was a world champion who was breaking into the top 10 P4P, so how was he a bum exactly ?

Yes his defense wasn't great but so what ? his offense is his defense which is what made him so exciting.

Not all the great fighters have great defenses. See Jack Dempsey, Aaron Pryor, Orlando Canizales, Julio Cesar Chavez.

[Violent Demise]

No let's not overrate this bum, he fought with his chin in the air and was a knockout waiting to happen.

Why couldn't Valero killed your stupid ass instead. It's annoying reading posts from dumb fukks like you who can't separate the mans personal life from his ring life. Ok he butchered his wife for no reason. Get the fukk over it. That don't make him a bum as a boxer. The man was an outstanding talent. Any knowledgeable fan (ok maybe that don't include you) can see that. At 140 against a steroid free Pacquiao, yeah I would favor Valero to win in a great fire fight

[smashup]

I want to just hang this out there- anyone think Valero's drug use may have played a part in his success in the ring?

The Goverment seriously protected him when they should have helped him fight his demons....makes you wonder what else they might have turned a blind eye to

Insane power in both Hands and he'd have been a force against anyone imo.

[Lance Uppercut]

I doubt anyone will ever again win a major title, and then finish their career undefeated with a 100% KO ratio.

[miron_lang]

The current Juan Manuel Marquez fairly easily UD's him IMO.

Pac kayoes him ala Hatton. Given that he'll go straight up to Manny w/c is definately a KO for Pacquiao.

Katsidis, Funeka or Guzman should have been he's immediate fight. before JMM or Pac

[GAME]

Edwin Valero is the only fighter in History to have a 100% KO Record and is in the Guiness book of records for the most consecutive KO's also.

Would he have battered Manny down with his ferocious power..?

That fight was 100% on the horizon no question.

This 5 min highlight video has got some fierce KO's and he's not just knocking them out he's battering them unconcious with some sickening shots , head and body.

Check it out......... and what a waste of a fighter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcbLZE-NcgE

That record has been beaten now by some bloke called Tyrone summat who beat it with 19 1st round KOs but then started losing.

Imo we never saw the best of Valero. Imagine the classics with Bradley or Alexander? I think he would have beaten Pac by KO. Weve seen Pac knocked out a couple times by lesser punchers. Valero will be remembered but possibly for the wrong reasons.

[Jody Lane]

Edwin Valero is the only fighter in History to have a 100% KO Record and is in the Guiness book of records for the most consecutive KO's also.

Would he have battered Manny down with his ferocious power..?

That fight was 100% on the horizon no question.

This 5 min highlight video has got some fierce KO's and he's not just knocking them out he's battering them unconcious with some sickening shots , head and body.

Check it out......... and what a waste of a fighter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcbLZE-NcgE

Actually Lamar Clark is in the Guiness Book with 44 onsecutive KOs. Course his record is inundated with wrestlers posing as boxers and no hopers.

[JazMerkin]

He was a good fighter, but you'd struggle to say he'd proved himself as even one of the 20 best in the world, let alone ATG material. Mosquera is by far his best win, DeMarco is decent & I know everyone was raving about how skillful he looked, but you have to remember that DeMarco was no 135 southpaw Hearns, he was getting outboxed by Adjaho in his previous fight until the Ghanaian bizarrely quit.

I think that a fight with Pacquiao would have been thrilling for all of 2/3 rounds before Manny stopped him. I wouldn't have favoured him against Marquez at 135, or any of the top 140lbers, so any talk of him beating Pacquiao is laughable to me.

Exciting fighter does not equal ATG. His early demise does not make him the KO version of Salvador Sanchez.

[Hunter]

Yeah Valeros legend will grow now that he is gone. He was a great talent but to say he would beat an ATG who is proven like Pac is probably going a bit overboard.

He could have been an ATG but we will never know and some other outside the ring antics would have eventually caught up with him if this hadnt happened.

Definitely sad to see.

[GAME]

Edwin Valero is the only fighter in History to have a 100% KO Record and is in the Guiness book of records for the most consecutive KO's also.

Would he have battered Manny down with his ferocious power..?

That fight was 100% on the horizon no question.

This 5 min highlight video has got some fierce KO's and he's not just knocking them out he's battering them unconcious with some sickening shots , head and body.

Check it out......... and what a waste of a fighter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcbLZE-NcgE

Actually Lamar Clark is in the Guiness Book with 44 onsecutive KOs. Course his record is inundated with wrestlers posing as boxers and no hopers.

I think he meant most consecutive 1st round KOs which Valero was in the guiness book of redords for but that has now been beaten.