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    Default The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    These 2 are considered the best of their era, but who would take the title? Who was considered to be the best of their era? Some people say Lewis and some say Holyfield?

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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    These 2 are considered the best of their era, but who would take the title? Who was considered to be the best of their era? Some people say Lewis and some say Holyfield?
    It's hard to say. I think Holyfield was better technically than Lewis, and was probably easier on the eye. This probably stems from him being lighter and more mobile. With that said, i think Lewis' resume at Heavyweight is more impressive.

    So i'm going to say Lewis. But it's close.
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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    These 2 are considered the best of their era, but who would take the title? Who was considered to be the best of their era? Some people say Lewis and some say Holyfield?
    It's hard to say. I think Holyfield was better technically than Lewis, and was probably easier on the eye. This probably stems from him being lighter and more mobile. With that said, i think Lewis' resume at Heavyweight is more impressive.

    So i'm going to say Lewis. But it's close.
    I also felt the same way too. Holyfield had a better chin, hand and foot speed, and determination. Lewis had power, size, and a better resume at HW, not that Holyfield's wasn't but Lewis also fought guys like Grant, Morrison, Ruddock, Tua, Vitali, etc. So for me it goes to Lewis, because of the resume. Still close though.

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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    These 2 are considered the best of their era, but who would take the title? Who was considered to be the best of their era? Some people say Lewis and some say Holyfield?
    It's hard to say. I think Holyfield was better technically than Lewis, and was probably easier on the eye. This probably stems from him being lighter and more mobile. With that said, i think Lewis' resume at Heavyweight is more impressive.

    So i'm going to say Lewis. But it's close.
    I also felt the same way too. Holyfield had a better chin, hand and foot speed, and determination. Lewis had power, size, and a better resume at HW, not that Holyfield's wasn't but Lewis also fought guys like Grant, Morrison, Ruddock, Tua, Vitali, etc. So for me it goes to Lewis, because of the resume. Still close though.
    Yeah it could be the case that Holyfield was probably a more complete fighter, but Lewis simply got it done.

    I'd have them both above Tyson anyway.
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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    I agree with you both, but i think Evander Holyfield would beat Lennox Lewis P4P. Lennox Lewis was in his prime when he fought Evander Holyfield, where as Evander Holyfield was on the downslide losing to John Ruiz after the Lennox Lewis fights.

    The early 1990's version of Evander Holyfield would win IMO, although thats probably and unpopular opinion.

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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I agree with you both, but i think Evander Holyfield would beat Lennox Lewis P4P. Lennox Lewis was in his prime when he fought Evander Holyfield, where as Evander Holyfield was on the downslide losing to John Ruiz after the Lennox Lewis fights.

    The early 1990's version of Evander Holyfield would win IMO, although thats probably and unpopular opinion.
    No, that's not an unpopular opinion, I feel that the 89-92 Holyfield takes the best version of Lewis and would give any HW in history a run for their money.

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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I agree with you both, but i think Evander Holyfield would beat Lennox Lewis P4P. Lennox Lewis was in his prime when he fought Evander Holyfield, where as Evander Holyfield was on the downslide losing to John Ruiz after the Lennox Lewis fights.

    The early 1990's version of Evander Holyfield would win IMO, although thats probably and unpopular opinion.
    I totally agree with this post. I always felt that the Evander that won the title first time around would beat any version of Lewis. Not knocking Lewis in any way as I feel Evander is probably the 3rd or 4th greatest HW of all time behind Ali, Louis and MAYBE 70's Foreman. There are others who could easily be argued to be above Holyfield I know but this is my opinion and Evander is my all time favourite HW .

    As for Resumes I feel they are pretty equal, Evander didn't fight Grant, Ruddock, Tua and Vitali but Lewis didn't fight Moorer, Bowe, Foreman or Holmes. So to me they were pretty equal in that sense. Also Evander fought a much more dangerous version of Tyson IMO, and a Tyson that still carried a slight air of invincibility.

    It is a close call and anyone arguing either fighter has a case, but my vote definitely goes for Evander.

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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I agree with you both, but i think Evander Holyfield would beat Lennox Lewis P4P. Lennox Lewis was in his prime when he fought Evander Holyfield, where as Evander Holyfield was on the downslide losing to John Ruiz after the Lennox Lewis fights.

    The early 1990's version of Evander Holyfield would win IMO, although thats probably and unpopular opinion.
    I'd agree with that
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    I've always rated Lennox Lewis highly as a Champion because of his consistency(reign), dominance (unifications) and Ability (Era). As a champion I think Lewis was better than most but as a fighters fighter, or even a boxers boxer, P4P Holyfield was by far the better man. Its just a shame his career as a Heavyweight was so patchy.

    I still belive Holyfield wouldn't of looked so bad if he wasn't fighting tricky guys like Bryd, Donald & Toney so late into his career... Maybe the Ruiz trilogy had him fooled

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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Grinch View Post
    I've always rated Lennox Lewis highly as a Champion because of his consistency(reign), dominance (unifications) and Ability (Era). As a champion I think Lewis was better than most but as a fighters fighter, or even a boxers boxer, P4P Holyfield was by far the better man. Its just a shame his career as a Heavyweight was so patchy.

    I still belive Holyfield wouldn't of looked so bad if he wasn't fighting tricky guys like Bryd, Donald & Toney so late into his career... Maybe the Ruiz trilogy had him fooled
    I've said this before but I believe Evander should have retired after the second Lewis fight and if he had I think that the boxing world would regard him as high as 3# all time HW. I know I would. All the shit defeats such as Ruiz, Toney, Donald and Byrd that came after Evander had lost it just shouldn't have happened. People say Ali doesn't get knocked down the ATG ladder for his poor ending but he knew after losing to Berbick it was over and didn't wait around for other shit fighters to beat him too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Grinch View Post
    I've always rated Lennox Lewis highly as a Champion because of his consistency(reign), dominance (unifications) and Ability (Era). As a champion I think Lewis was better than most but as a fighters fighter, or even a boxers boxer, P4P Holyfield was by far the better man. Its just a shame his career as a Heavyweight was so patchy.

    I still belive Holyfield wouldn't of looked so bad if he wasn't fighting tricky guys like Bryd, Donald & Toney so late into his career... Maybe the Ruiz trilogy had him fooled
    I've said this before but I believe Evander should have retired after the second Lewis fight and if he had I think that the boxing world would regard him as high as 3# all time HW. I know I would. All the shit defeats such as Ruiz, Toney, Donald and Byrd that came after Evander had lost it just shouldn't have happened. People say Ali doesn't get knocked down the ATG ladder for his poor ending but he knew after losing to Berbick it was over and didn't wait around for other shit fighters to beat him too.
    Yeah I dunno... Holyfield is all heart so he was never (is never) gonna give up fighting but I guess he could of been more shrewd with his opponent selection at the age of 36... But then I guess 99% of these warrior types don't ever make for clever matchmakers.

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