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    Default Huck vs Povetkin scoring question

    If someone has Povetkin winning, I won't argue.

    I scored the fight 115-113 for Huck. There was 5 rounds I gave him (that I hadn't marked as close on my scorecard). There was 4 close rounds in the fight. I gave Huck 2 of those rounds and Povetkin 2 of those rounds.

    My question is how does anyone come up with 116-112 for Povetkin. Even if I gave Povetkin all 4 of the close rounds my scorecard would be 115-113 Povetkin.

    I just don't see how Huck didn't win 5 rounds at the absolute least.

    Did anyone have it 116-112 povetkin (or know of anyone with that score?)? I just don't think any scorecard giving Povetkin 116 pts is reasonable.

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    Default Re: Huck vs Povetkin scoring question

    I didn't keep a card, but I thought that Huck won the fight. Maybe 7-5 or 8-4, with close rounds that I thought went his way. Could be that, at ringside, it looked different.

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    Default Re: Huck vs Povetkin scoring question

    true, a fight can look different at ringside. That is why I don't complain about the score of a fight if I were to take close rounds and flip them and it made the same score as the judges. But I can't possibly justify giving Povetkin 8 rounds. You could have Povetkin up 3-1 after 4 rounds and there is no way for Povetkin to win 5 out of the final 8 rounds. NO way. He lost at least 4 of those rounds clearly.

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    Default Re: Huck vs Povetkin scoring question

    It continually strikes me as odd when the judges scoring a fight score it differently than 80-90% of those watching anywhere (at home or boxing writers sitting there). That always makes me scratch my head.

    I especially scratch my head when the judges have it wide, and wider than anyone else anywhere has it scored.

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    Default Re: Huck vs Povetkin scoring question

    I had Povetkin winning a close decision, something like 115-113, but there's a lot of room there, the reverse, Huck winning 115-113 wouldn't have shocked me.
    I'd agree that Povetkin winning by a score of 116-112 is ridiculous.

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    Default Re: Huck vs Povetkin scoring question

    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    It continually strikes me as odd when the judges scoring a fight score it differently than 80-90% of those watching anywhere (at home or boxing writers sitting there). That always makes me scratch my head.

    I especially scratch my head when the judges have it wide, and wider than anyone else anywhere has it scored.
    Yeah it wasn't a robbery per se, but it was def the wrong decision. Huck hurt Povetkin a good 4 different times, and at least one of those times probably should have gotten a knockdown out of it due to Povetkin being held up by the ropes and/or diving at Huck's waist to grasp on for dear life.

    I had it 8-4 Huck, but 7-5 Huck is probably more popular. 6-6 is questionable, giving it to Povetkin is very questionable in my opinion.

    Povetkin was all heart, but clearly fatigued and on queer street for much of the fight.
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    Default Re: Huck vs Povetkin scoring question

    You lot are giving Huck an awful lot of credit for sloppy sporadic roughhousing tactics. Povetkin deserved to nick it imo. Shit load of close rounds though, literally half the fight was pick em rounds. And as such you always get controversy with scores in fights like these cos you can actually have it 8-4 either way if you like the work of one over the other in the close rounds.

    Did I just read Mars_ax give the fight to Povetkin 115-113 and in the same breath saying the 116-112 score was ridiculous? Thats 1 round scored different dude.

    Anyone saying this is a robbery is talking out of their arse and thats a fact.
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    Povetkin is a waste, he'll never get a big fight now. He's had trouble with 2 of the smallest heavyweights out there, what happens when he fights a full sized one?

    I would take Seth Mitchell over Povetkin right now. Also Adamek would more than likely stop Povetkin as well.

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    Default Re: Huck vs Povetkin scoring question

    I don't claim to be a boxing judge, but I had the fight a draw at 6-6. There were a number of close rounds. I don't have a problem with the fight going to Povetkin and I wouldn't have had a problem with the fight going to Huck.

    In the first few rounds, Povetkin showed that he is a better boxer than Huck. It looked like he ran out of gas pretty fast, which may have had something to do with Huck. Huck has a right hand and that's it. No head movement, no combination punching, very little body work etc. If Povetkin could have figured out how to avoid that right hand, it would have been an easy night for him.

    The cards weren't as bad as the Cloud-Campillo cards or the card of the one judge that gave the Donaire-Vasquez fight to Vasquez.

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    Default Re: Huck vs Povetkin scoring question

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Povetkin is a waste, he'll never get a big fight now. He's had trouble with 2 of the smallest heavyweights out there, what happens when he fights a full sized one?

    I would take Seth Mitchell over Povetkin right now. Also Adamek would more than likely stop Povetkin as well.
    no chance

    adamek couldnt even come anywhere near to stopping kevin mcbride

    massively overrated
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    Default Re: Huck vs Povetkin scoring question

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Povetkin is a waste, he'll never get a big fight now. He's had trouble with 2 of the smallest heavyweights out there, what happens when he fights a full sized one?

    I would take Seth Mitchell over Povetkin right now. Also Adamek would more than likely stop Povetkin as well.
    no chance

    adamek couldnt even come anywhere near to stopping kevin mcbride

    massively overrated
    I don't know about massively overrated. Power is overrated. Adamek moves well for a heavyweight so he has the ability to beat plodders. Povetkin and Huck don't move well at all. Plus their head movement is non-existant. Adamek could win a decision on the cards against either one--the same as he did against a fat Arreola. I was a little dismayed that Adamek decided to fight a journeman in Aguilera for his comeback fight, but he is coming off a bad loss against Vitali. It would be good to see him in against Povetkin, Huck, Pulev, Boystov etc. I hope he doesn't resign to only facing journeymen, if not the Klitschkos. He needs to face a tough challenge to earn another fight against the Klitschko's.

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    Default Re: Huck vs Povetkin scoring question

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Povetkin is a waste, he'll never get a big fight now. He's had trouble with 2 of the smallest heavyweights out there, what happens when he fights a full sized one?

    I would take Seth Mitchell over Povetkin right now. Also Adamek would more than likely stop Povetkin as well.
    no chance

    adamek couldnt even come anywhere near to stopping kevin mcbride

    massively overrated
    I don't know about massively overrated. Power is overrated. Adamek moves well for a heavyweight so he has the ability to beat plodders. Povetkin and Huck don't move well at all. Plus their head movement is non-existant. Adamek could win a decision on the cards against either one--the same as he did against a fat Arreola. I was a little dismayed that Adamek decided to fight a journeman in Aguilera for his comeback fight, but he is coming off a bad loss against Vitali. It would be good to see him in against Povetkin, Huck, Pulev, Boystov etc. I hope he doesn't resign to only facing journeymen, if not the Klitschkos. He needs to face a tough challenge to earn another fight against the Klitschko's.
    adamek beat arreola yes in a very close fight, where an injury decided it

    there is no way adamek would KO provetkin, and provetkin has good skills and can be quite fast, i would firmly put my money on him in a fight between the two
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    Default Re: Huck vs Povetkin scoring question

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Povetkin is a waste, he'll never get a big fight now. He's had trouble with 2 of the smallest heavyweights out there, what happens when he fights a full sized one?

    I would take Seth Mitchell over Povetkin right now. Also Adamek would more than likely stop Povetkin as well.
    no chance

    adamek couldnt even come anywhere near to stopping kevin mcbride

    massively overrated
    I don't know about massively overrated. Power is overrated. Adamek moves well for a heavyweight so he has the ability to beat plodders. Povetkin and Huck don't move well at all. Plus their head movement is non-existant. Adamek could win a decision on the cards against either one--the same as he did against a fat Arreola. I was a little dismayed that Adamek decided to fight a journeman in Aguilera for his comeback fight, but he is coming off a bad loss against Vitali. It would be good to see him in against Povetkin, Huck, Pulev, Boystov etc. I hope he doesn't resign to only facing journeymen, if not the Klitschkos. He needs to face a tough challenge to earn another fight against the Klitschko's.
    adamek beat arreola yes in a very close fight, where an injury decided it

    there is no way adamek would KO provetkin, and provetkin has good skills and can be quite fast, i would firmly put my money on him in a fight between the two
    There is no way Adamek ko's Povetkin, but Adamek could outbox Povetkin and win on volume. Povetkin has a good punch. However, he had trouble with Huck in Huck's first fight as a heavyweight. I was disappointed in his performance against Huck as I expected him to thoroughly win. Povetkin's stamina didn't look good. His movement seemed off. He appeared to be gassed by the mid rounds. He looked much better against Boswell, but that could be because Huck is better than Boswell.

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    I had it for Povetkin 116-112....good fight and great atmospher....and this is pretty unusual in Germany (:

    Huck did very well but a little one dimenstional and fouled too many times for me...Povetkin more polished and landed more eye catching flurries...yes Hucks punches were more hurtfull but not enough to win him the fight

    job biscuit (Chisora was in the crowd)!!!

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