Do people actually think Marciano would beat Ali?

[Beanflicker]

I know this has been done 103803823 times over the years, but I just watched that retarded "computer fight" for the first time.

Do people actually think Marciano would beat anything other than a late 70s Ali? It's mind boggling to me

[DavilaJones]

I think they did it based on what he did to Archie Moore and Jersey Joe Walcott. Though both of them thoroughly outboxed and spanked him, in the end he caught them with big punches and took them out. Now Ali I believe was a bigger man then those aforementioned and he could take a better punch.

Also I really think Marciano's Career is inflated due to the simple fact the named fighters he fought well all over the hill. However he always brought pressure and kept swinging after he missed which is quite terrifying if you're a counter puncher going against him.

[roberto duran legend]

Marciano would have no chance against Ali, but saying that he was a great champion in
his own time,cant ask for more than that.

[beenKOed]

Of course some fans do, anything can happen in the ring.
Look, Rocky was as durable as they come and a puncher always has a chance.
I don't think Marciano could have beaten Ali at any time, BUT a puncher always has that slim chance, and that is what feeds the Marciano mystique. Everyone wants to believe the little guy has a chance , you'll never change that.

[Master]

Ali would have beaten Rocky and Joe Louis, he had the style, size and character to beat them.

[armyash]

Of course Marciano had a chance, he was hard as nails, had a great chin, super fit, would never quit and carried his power through to the end. If Cooper and Frazier could put him down so could Rocky M. In fact if Rocky M had put him down I believe he would have found it harder to get back up and if he did get back up Marciano would be hunting him down for the stoppage.

Ali would be a big favourite definitely but Marciano was a great champion too, would it really be a huge upset if he won?

I think the fact they had complete opposite styles make most people pick Ali and they think he would give Rocky a boxing lesson, I don't think it would be that straight forward. I imagine a Mayweather v Cotto type of fight....but better and closer.

[shza]

Ali would be a big favourite definitely but Marciano was a great champion too, would it really be a huge upset if he won?

Yes, it would have been a HUGE upset. Come on.

I think the fact they had complete opposite styles make most people pick Ali and they think he would give Rocky a boxing lesson, I don't think it would be that straight forward. I imagine a Mayweather v Cotto type of fight....but better and closer.

Ali was not only technically superior and *much* faster; he was also *much* bigger. Marciano was barely a cruiserweight -- he was 5'11" and always weighed around 180. Ali was 6'3" and always weighed around 220.

This would not have been a close fight (or a fair fight). Give it a rest.

[Mars_ax]

No disrespect to Rocky, but a prime Ali would have boxed circles around Marciano, by the late rounds Rock's face would be a mess, and the fight would be stopped on a TKO. People seem to forget, in addition to being a great offensive fighter, Ali had a great defense. Marciano had short arms, so reaching Ali with effective shots would be next to impossible.

[armyash]

Ali would be a big favourite definitely but Marciano was a great champion too, would it really be a huge upset if he won?

Yes, it would have been a HUGE upset. Come on.

I think the fact they had complete opposite styles make most people pick Ali and they think he would give Rocky a boxing lesson, I don't think it would be that straight forward. I imagine a Mayweather v Cotto type of fight....but better and closer.

Ali was not only technically superior and *much* faster; he was also *much* bigger. Marciano was barely a cruiserweight -- he was 5'11" and always weighed around 180. Ali was 6'3" and always weighed around 220.

This would not have been a close fight (or a fair fight). Give it a rest.

Yes I would have expected Ali to win but Marciano would have had a chance.

[Andre]

Ali would be a big favourite definitely but Marciano was a great champion too, would it really be a huge upset if he won?

Yes, it would have been a HUGE upset. Come on.

I think the fact they had complete opposite styles make most people pick Ali and they think he would give Rocky a boxing lesson, I don't think it would be that straight forward. I imagine a Mayweather v Cotto type of fight....but better and closer.

Ali was not only technically superior and *much* faster; he was also *much* bigger. Marciano was barely a cruiserweight -- he was 5'11" and always weighed around 180. Ali was 6'3" and always weighed around 220.

This would not have been a close fight (or a fair fight). Give it a rest.

Yeah weight wise it would be a closer match asking if Tyson would beat Ali.
I'd say yeah maybe a shock early night if not Poor Mike would collapse and give up late.

Maybe a better question if Marciano would beat Dempsey or Tunney or Greb.

[ono]

Not now no

[brocktonblockbust]

I couldnt stand ıt anymore and had to weıgh ın.

Ali would NOT be able to hıt Rocky AT ALL wıth that left hook/uppercut arm punch he loved to throw agaınst Frazıer for example. Nobody ever could hıt hım wıth a left hook. That was Ali's lead-off punch---STEPPİNG BACKWARDS he would snap that left uppercut/hook from underneath as hıs opponent was rushıng ın. Thıs would stop hıs opponent's ınward advance by knockıng hım slıghtly off balance. THEN Ali would throw the lead rıght OR another left uppercut. You can see hım doıng thıs almost every tıme to Frazıer and also to Quarry (ı.e hıs shorter opponents). Problem for Ali ıs that IT WOULDNT WORK LIKE THAT WITH MARCİANO. Ali had plenty of bad habits and tryıng thıs left hook wıth Rocky would result ın several broken ribs on Ali's left flank. Because Rocky could slip underneath that easily and throw a wallop to the body. Yes Rocky would gıve Alı fıts. That ıs the best way to describe it. Frazıer was an easy target--that predıctable bobbıng and weavıng and comıng straıght forward. Rocky never came dırectly forward---Charlıe Goldman fucked everybody over.

Marciano would stop Ali. Frazier destroyed Ali ın 71. Ali was never the same after that---neıther was Frazier. If Frazıer could do that imagıne what Rocky would do.

[Master]

Frazier hit harder than Rocky with the left hook and Ali could take his he could take Rocky's.

[Dark Lord Al]

Frazier hit harder than Rocky with the left hook and Ali could take his he could take Rocky's.

and you dont think for instance Wlad hits harder than both ?
see my point ?

[Master]

Frazier hit harder than Rocky with the left hook and Ali could take his he could take Rocky's.

and you dont think for instance Wlad hits harder than both ?
see my point ?

I do but Wlad fights different to Rocky and Joe and they punched faster inside than he does so the fight would play out differently.