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    Default When is Helenius going to step up?

    Ok... why isn't Helenius stepping up? Why is he fighting these journeymen and over-hyped, made to order fighters?

    Journeymen like Sprott won't do. Over-hyped fighters like Del-Boy Chisora won't do. The least meaningful fight Helenius had was with Brewster when he beat him up REAL bad. I thought it wouldn't be long before he got better and better fights. But, he is, tonight, fighting Michael Sprott??


    Look:
    Helenius needs to get his next three fights with either of these names:
    Wach, Wilder, Arreola, Stiverne, Charr, Solis, Povetkin, Fury, Jennings, Adamek, Banks, Briggs (Shannon), Johnson, Thompson and/or Mitchell.

    Helenius won't fight for a title (unless Povetkin keeps his) anytime this century if he keeps on fighting these useless fights!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Ok... why isn't Helenius stepping up? Why is he fighting these journeymen and over-hyped, made to order fighters?

    Journeymen like Sprott won't do. Over-hyped fighters like Del-Boy Chisora won't do. The least meaningful fight Helenius had was with Brewster when he beat him up REAL bad. I thought it wouldn't be long before he got better and better fights. But, he is, tonight, fighting Michael Sprott??


    Look:
    Helenius needs to get his next three fights with either of these names:
    Wach, Wilder, Arreola, Stiverne, Charr, Solis, Povetkin, Fury, Jennings, Adamek, Banks, Briggs (Shannon), Johnson, Thompson and/or Mitchell.

    Helenius won't fight for a title (unless Povetkin keeps his) anytime this century if he keeps on fighting these useless fights!
    Most likely not stepping up cause he may just not be all that good. He looked great against peter, brewster, and lyhkovich those were names but they had all their fight beat out of them by the time helenius faced em.

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    Default Re: When is Helenius going to step up?

    Quote Originally Posted by armin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Ok... why isn't Helenius stepping up? Why is he fighting these journeymen and over-hyped, made to order fighters?

    Journeymen like Sprott won't do. Over-hyped fighters like Del-Boy Chisora won't do. The least meaningful fight Helenius had was with Brewster when he beat him up REAL bad. I thought it wouldn't be long before he got better and better fights. But, he is, tonight, fighting Michael Sprott??


    Look:
    Helenius needs to get his next three fights with either of these names:
    Wach, Wilder, Arreola, Stiverne, Charr, Solis, Povetkin, Fury, Jennings, Adamek, Banks, Briggs (Shannon), Johnson, Thompson and/or Mitchell.

    Helenius won't fight for a title (unless Povetkin keeps his) anytime this century if he keeps on fighting these useless fights!
    Most likely not stepping up cause he may just not be all that good. He looked great against peter, brewster, and lyhkovich those were names but they had all their fight beat out of them by the time helenius faced em.
    That's what I mean? I thought by now he would be fighting for a title. But he isn't putting himself anywhere near a title fight.

    Ok, the Peter fight should have put him right in position for a major contender fight. But since then he has not been fighting top-notch opponents, and he can do it.

    He doesn't have a bad chin, he has decent stamina and his power is fairly decent for his frame. So, what's the beef?

    You know what? He needs to get fights out of Finland man. In fact, he needs more fights in the UK and Germany... if he doesn't want to travel to the USA.

    But, those names you added, Peter, Lyakovich and Brewster (to some extent) were beaten and bruised up guys after they had their title runs.

    We ain't fooled by that!

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    Default Re: When is Helenius going to step up?

    He didnt really look decent tonight, he won but it was very boring really.

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    It's a bit rich to call Chisora over hyped when he clearly beat Helenius. Helenius is many kinds of rubbish.

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    Default Re: When is Helenius going to step up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    It's a bit rich to call Chisora over hyped when he clearly beat Helenius. Helenius is many kinds of rubbish.
    Pretty much what I was going to say. I'd have probably rambled on a bit more though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    It's a bit rich to call Chisora over hyped when he clearly beat Helenius. Helenius is many kinds of rubbish.
    You can say Chisora beat Helenius. He also stole one from Tank Williams, which should have easily have been a draw.

    How can a guy that beat Peter and Brewster to crisps, just totally bum out against mediocre and average opposition?

    Let's be fair, Chisora is average and Tank Williams is mediocre.

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    Default Re: When is Helenius going to step up?

    He doesn't come off as a guy enthused about what he does for a living and he has lost his career momentum off early wins. Sprott was clocking him with wind up clean shots. His condition and hair cut are not the problem.

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    Default Re: When is Helenius going to step up?

    Fuck off is this a serious thread

    You know he was laid off because of injury and just made a come back where he struggled.

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    Helenius has reached his limit and it's obvious he sucks. His promoter should cash out by feeding him to Tyson Fury..

    Fury KO7 Helenius

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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    It's a bit rich to call Chisora over hyped when he clearly beat Helenius. Helenius is many kinds of rubbish.
    You can say Chisora beat Helenius. He also stole one from Tank Williams, which should have easily have been a draw.
    How can a guy that beat Peter and Brewster to crisps, just totally bum out against mediocre and average opposition?

    Let's be fair, Chisora is average and Tank Williams is mediocre.
    But Peter was only ever slightly above average. Slow and fat. Beating a washed up version of this fighter isn't impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    It's a bit rich to call Chisora over hyped when he clearly beat Helenius. Helenius is many kinds of rubbish.
    You can say Chisora beat Helenius. He also stole one from Tank Williams, which should have easily have been a draw.
    How can a guy that beat Peter and Brewster to crisps, just totally bum out against mediocre and average opposition?

    Let's be fair, Chisora is average and Tank Williams is mediocre.
    But Peter was only ever slightly above average. Slow and fat. Beating a washed up version of this fighter isn't impressive.
    I won't argue there. Sam Peter is a long ways from the guy that tore Maskaev and Williams's head's off and the one that knocked Wladimir down three times.

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    Hes a greesy protected cash cow. Thats why.... I know people commented on chisora already, but chisora beat him then fought vitali, i didnt even watch the sprott fight boxing is soooo much a business that it all makes sense when you think of things in a business sence

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    Default Re: When is Helenius going to step up?

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post

    Look:
    Helenius needs to get his next three fights with either of these names:
    Wach, Wilder, Arreola, Stiverne, Charr, Solis, Povetkin, Fury, Jennings, Adamek, Banks, Briggs (Shannon), Johnson, Thompson and/or Mitchell.
    !
    Solis? Briggs? Stiverne? What will this do for him?

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    Default Re: When is Helenius going to step up?

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post

    Look:
    Helenius needs to get his next three fights with either of these names:
    Wach, Wilder, Arreola, Stiverne, Charr, Solis, Povetkin, Fury, Jennings, Adamek, Banks, Briggs (Shannon), Johnson, Thompson and/or Mitchell.
    !
    Solis? Briggs? Stiverne? What will this do for him?
    Stiverne actually beat Helenius and David Price in the amatuers and has built up a solid and respectable record for himself, making his way up the ladder. It would prove to people like myself that Helenius can fight up and coming, hard hitting boxers that can fight. Stiverne can fight.

    Solis is another good boxing test for Helenius, and Solis has a name brand you can relate to. Solis is also an up and coming prospect who lobbied himself, much quicker than Helenius has, to a fight for the title againts Vitali. Sure, the fight ended in a shit fashion- but he lobbied himself to get there. Helenius doesn't look like he wants to fight the big fights, if he takes this and tags himself to the Solis fight with Vitali, he can move one inch closer to a belt and some respect!

    I kid you not- Briggs is a lot better than many of the guys out there in the fringes. He also fought Vitali, plus he is seen as a durable fighter. Hard hitting and very exciting. Can carry KO power into the late rounds, plus experience in with being a name brand. He doesn't have to take a Briggs fight, but people would believe he is something more than what he is if he takes a fight like a Shannon Briggs. Plus, Briggs is no Rahman- who is all about done, fat and lazy!

    I would believe Briggs would get another shot at a title against the Klits than Helenius is to getting one shot at the Klits, or Povetkin for that matter!
    Last edited by ykdadamaja; 03-31-2013 at 02:16 AM.

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