Can Hopkins beat the Heavyweights that James Toney fought?

[FinitoElDinamita]

let's hear it..

The great Toney shits all over Hopkins but that's just my opinion..

[Jerry Rice]

let's hear it..

The great Toney shits all over Hopkins but that's just my opinion..

Hopkins was a middle weight all the way up until his late 30's.

[Spicoli]

Good thing we're not talking about reigns at Lt hvy ? Its a bit loaded, I give Toney credit for Holyfield and Peter 1 but other than that one guy keeps discipline, faces and breaks his own records with top competition and one who couldn't put the fork down and settled on going through the motions flaunting a mean set of moobs and embarrass himself.

[bzkfn]

Yeah I don't really understand the eternal love for James Toney. Hopkins would have pissed all over his chips if they'd ever fought IMO.

[Boxer4life]

Not a fair assessment, Toney was a big super middleweight, hopkins was a middle weight and fought at middle pretty much his entire career, and for him to put on weight enough to jump to 175 he had to hire mackie, same guy that helped roy go up to heavy, so its not a fair comparison, period, and toney is a juicer so fuck him and any other boxer that jucies

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

No no no no. Never. IF Hopkins ever really thought he could, he would of gone through with the Maskaev fight some years back.

Toney had a phenomenal beard and the perfect style for a man with such a disparity in size...
Makes me wish Tyson had of changed up his style before he hit 30. Can you imagine!

But yes I think Hopkins would have just refused do 'play ball' if they ever fought each other. Toney needs someone a lot more 'honest' to look good against. The heavyweights were all far too slow to be 'cute'... Of course only until Toney lost it completely.

[p4pking]

Yeah I don't really understand the eternal love for James Toney. Hopkins would have pissed all over his chips if they'd ever fought IMO.

But James would still eat them, so what are you saying Hopkins would have needed a blind referee, imo. Within the rules of boxing he was not beating a prime James Toney at 160 pounds. Actually try and imagine Bernard winning that without excessive clinching, holding and hitting, using his head, etc.

[Master]

Hopkins would not be able to beat Holyfield and Ruiz and is not a heavyweight at all. A more interesting question would be if they fought now at heavyweight who would win. Toney is slow but carries the weight, Hopkins would be considerably lighter.