Prime Mayorga in today's WW division

[FinitoElDinamita]

fuckin beast..





What are your thoughts on Mayorga and how would he do in today's deep WW division?

[p4pking]

Probably quite well, better than he was able to do in his day even. Most guys who'd have the offensive skill to deal with him just wouldn't be able to weather his attack imo, many of them are quite a bit smaller as well. Bradley, Paulie, Alexander, Khan, Brook, Broner, Vic Ortiz, Alvarado etc. Then you've got some really tough/dangerous guys who just aren't good enough. Guerrero, Provodnikov, Rios, Thurman etc etc.

Would only be confident that Floyd, or Pacquiao of a couple years ago would definitely not lose to him. Cotto and Mosley basically fought Mayorga when they were just as past it as he was, so I think you can kind of go by those results.

Would certainly be a riot if he were still around, but I suspect he has himself to blame for not taking his career seriously enough after the Spinks loss.

[Jerry Rice]

What he lacked in skill he made up for in toughness.

[ElTerribleMorales]

IMO a prime Cotto and Mayorga would have beaten a prime Mayorga probably even easier than the one they did beat up, Mayweather would easily outbox him, DLH would have easily picked him apart just as he did at 154, Trinidad would have done the same, but guys like Berto, Ortiz, Maidana, Broner, Bradley, Guerrero, etc. would have struggled or lost to him due to his power, pressure, mind games, and toughness

[p4pking]

IMO a prime Cotto and Mayorga would have beaten a prime Mayorga probably even easier than the one they did beat up, Mayweather would easily outbox him, DLH would have easily picked him apart just as he did at 154, Trinidad would have done the same, but guys like Berto, Ortiz, Maidana, Broner, Bradley, Guerrero, etc. would have struggled or lost to him due to his power, pressure, mind games, and toughness

I assume you meant prime Cotto and Mosley in the first sentence, if so I only agree about Shane. You've got to remember Mayorga really wasn't anything like he was at WW once Trinidad beat him, and Cotto never had a reign where he wasn't vulnerable to somebody like that. Mosley is easy to call because he's just as much of a beast as Mayorga physically as well as the better fighter, but Cotto had every chance of going against a young El Matador.

[ElTerribleMorales]

IMO a prime Cotto and Mayorga would have beaten a prime Mayorga probably even easier than the one they did beat up, Mayweather would easily outbox him, DLH would have easily picked him apart just as he did at 154, Trinidad would have done the same, but guys like Berto, Ortiz, Maidana, Broner, Bradley, Guerrero, etc. would have struggled or lost to him due to his power, pressure, mind games, and toughness

I assume you meant prime Cotto and Mosley in the first sentence, if so I only agree about Shane. You've got to remember Mayorga really wasn't anything like he was at WW once Trinidad beat him, and Cotto never had a reign where he wasn't vulnerable to somebody like that. Mosley is easy to call because he's just as much of a beast as Mayorga physically as well as the better fighter, but Cotto had every chance of going against a young El Matador.

I said a PRIME Cotto and Mosley, and I disagree, because IMO a prime Cotto (pre-Margacheato) was still leagues above Mayorga in terms of skill, he would have broken him down with shots to the body and head, IMO Mayorga was too open, too sloppy, and too predictable to have troubled anyone with good counter punching skills

[p4pking]

IMO a prime Cotto and Mayorga would have beaten a prime Mayorga probably even easier than the one they did beat up, Mayweather would easily outbox him, DLH would have easily picked him apart just as he did at 154, Trinidad would have done the same, but guys like Berto, Ortiz, Maidana, Broner, Bradley, Guerrero, etc. would have struggled or lost to him due to his power, pressure, mind games, and toughness

I assume you meant prime Cotto and Mosley in the first sentence, if so I only agree about Shane. You've got to remember Mayorga really wasn't anything like he was at WW once Trinidad beat him, and Cotto never had a reign where he wasn't vulnerable to somebody like that. Mosley is easy to call because he's just as much of a beast as Mayorga physically as well as the better fighter, but Cotto had every chance of going against a young El Matador.

I said a PRIME Cotto and Mosley, and I disagree, because IMO a prime Cotto (pre-Margacheato) was still leagues above Mayorga in terms of skill, he would have broken him down with shots to the body and head, IMO Mayorga was too open, too sloppy, and too predictable to have troubled anyone with good counter punching skills

You didn't say Mosley, thought that's what you meant just wanted to clarify. Vernon Forrest was leagues above Mayorga in terms of skill to, he had counter punching skills and a lot more power than Miguel. He also never showed any signs of being less than durable except against Mayorga. I don't know, I just see it as a really hard ask for Cotto, he could have won but would've had to box perfectly and avoid most everything coming back. Mayorga WAS a beast for a while.

[Jerry Rice]

IMO a prime Cotto and Mayorga would have beaten a prime Mayorga probably even easier than the one they did beat up, Mayweather would easily outbox him, DLH would have easily picked him apart just as he did at 154, Trinidad would have done the same, but guys like Berto, Ortiz, Maidana, Broner, Bradley, Guerrero, etc. would have struggled or lost to him due to his power, pressure, mind games, and toughness

I assume you meant prime Cotto and Mosley in the first sentence, if so I only agree about Shane. You've got to remember Mayorga really wasn't anything like he was at WW once Trinidad beat him, and Cotto never had a reign where he wasn't vulnerable to somebody like that. Mosley is easy to call because he's just as much of a beast as Mayorga physically as well as the better fighter, but Cotto had every chance of going against a young El Matador.

I said a PRIME Cotto and Mosley, and I disagree, because IMO a prime Cotto (pre-Margacheato) was still leagues above Mayorga in terms of skill, he would have broken him down with shots to the body and head, IMO Mayorga was too open, too sloppy, and too predictable to have troubled anyone with good counter punching skills

He beat Vernon Forrest and Andrew Lewis twice, both were very skilled WW who could counter, Mayorgas onslaught would have been overwhelming for Cotto despite Cotto being more skilled, you can make a case that p4p he had the best chin in boxing history, that fucker could take a punch, Cottos offensive was not enough to stop Mayorga.