Written Off !!!!!!!!!!

[Dia bando]

Boxing fan's are a funny bunch, one lose and and your history,! yes we are a funny lot
but we forget, here is a example of a World Champion before he won his World title
he had lost 6 fights, his record consisted of won (49) (KO30) lost 14 (4) +drawn 2.
Now you would say, he was pretty crap but the guy was a Rock, this guy was very entertaining
not the best technical boxer in the World, but gave his all, WHO WAS HE.!

[Dia bando]

Boxing fan's are a funny bunch, one lose and and your history,! yes we are a funny lot
but we forget, here is a example of a World Champion before he won his World title
he had lost 6 fights, his record consisted of won (49) (KO30) lost 14 (4) +drawn 2.
Now you would say, he was pretty crap but the guy was a Rock, this guy was very entertaining
not the best technical boxer in the World, but gave his all, WHO WAS HE.!

There is a clue in there to who this fighters is.!

[Fenster]

Denis Andries.

[Beanz]

Dennis Andries

[Beanz]

[Beanz]

[IamInuit]

Boxing fan's are a funny bunch, one lose and and your history,! yes we are a funny lot
but we forget, here is a example of a World Champion before he won his World title
he had lost 6 fights, his record consisted of won (49) (KO30) lost 14 (4) +drawn 2.
Now you would say, he was pretty crap but the guy was a Rock, this guy was very entertaining
not the best technical boxer in the World, but gave his all, WHO WAS HE.!

Definitely in my top 5 personal pet peeves.

[Dia bando]

Yes you are right Dennis The Rock Andries, he lost 6 fights before becoming Champion, had 3
epic fights with Jeff Harding, and one with Tommy Hearns.
After losing to Hearns, he became a Kronk fighter it goes to prove your may be down and out
but this guy was far from finished.
Dennis was not technically a gifted boxer, but he gave his body and soul people would look
at his record and think he was rubbish far from it.

[IamInuit]

Yes you are right Dennis The Rock Andries, he lost 6 fights before becoming Champion, had 3
epic fights with Jeff Harding, and one with Tommy Hearns.
After losing to Hearns, he became a Kronk fighter it goes to prove your may be down and out
but this guy was far from finished.
Dennis was not technically a gifted boxer, but he gave his body and soul people would look
at his record and think he was rubbish far from it.

Same with Conteh and Graham. They both got a bit of a raw deal for their efforts in the public eye and historically.


Imagine Benny Leonard and Armstrong and their beginnings. Today they would have been relegated to club fighters and never gotten out of the hole.

[Dia bando]

Yes you are right Dennis The Rock Andries, he lost 6 fights before becoming Champion, had 3
epic fights with Jeff Harding, and one with Tommy Hearns.
After losing to Hearns, he became a Kronk fighter it goes to prove your may be down and out
but this guy was far from finished.
Dennis was not technically a gifted boxer, but he gave his body and soul people would look
at his record and think he was rubbish far from it.

Same with Conteh and Graham. They both got a bit of a raw deal for their efforts in the public eye and historically.


Imagine Benny Leonard and Armstrong and their beginnings. Today they would have been relegated to club fighters and never gotten out of the hole.

What is it today you lose a few fights scrap hep job,! ever body would like a undefeated record but
they are few and far between.
Lets take Hagler he had lost a few fights, but does that take away the fact he was one of the finest
middle weight Champions ever to put on a pair of boxing gloves.
The list goes on as above Armstrong and Leonard true greats, if horse loses a race do you stop racing it no it's given a chance.
I agree with you past greats, would be relegated to club fighter level in this day and age.

[jon09]

Boxing fan's are a funny bunch, one lose and and your history,! yes we are a funny lot
but we forget, here is a example of a World Champion before he won his World title
he had lost 6 fights, his record consisted of won (49) (KO30) lost 14 (4) +drawn 2.
Now you would say, he was pretty crap but the guy was a Rock, this guy was very entertaining
not the best technical boxer in the World, but gave his all, WHO WAS HE.!

Charlie Zelenoff?

[Spicoli]

I can imagine a guy can learn more about himself from a hard fought loss than a assured and assumex win in some cases and he wasn't lossing to chumps. Guys like Andries were banking experience the whole time. Bobby Czyz and Arum thought he would just move outta the way for them. Loved the trilogy with Harding, that belongs in a best of all time category. Just wars!

[toe2toe]

Jhonny Gonzalez. 19 boxing "experts" were asked, 19 picked Mares, 0 for J-Gonz.

[p4pking]

Jhonny Gonzalez. 19 boxing "experts" were asked, 19 picked Mares, 0 for J-Gonz.

Is that actually confirmed? Goes to show, this is boxing. There was no reason at all to pick Gonzales, but most of those 19 guys probably knew he had some chance, and what do ya know Surprised the hell out of me, Mares has had a couple of gruelling fights and I'd never seen him seriously hurt before last night. Anyone, absolutely anyone can get caught against a puncher like Jhonny at that weight class. Would love to see a rematch.

[Dia bando]

Dennis Andries is a example of a fighter that you would have written off, but he went on to become
WBC light heavy weight Champ.
Very much goes to show, sometimes records do not tell the truth us boxing fan's are writing fighters off
after one lose.!

Looking back in time not many fighters, were undefeated but they became Champions,! are
we now writing fighters off after one lose yes we are,!
Modern boxers, don't seem to serve a long apprenticeship you can be a World Champion after
10 or so fights, it seems we don't tolerate a fighter losing 2 or 3 fights.
Lets go back in time, most fighters had between 30 or 40 plus fights before having a chance of
a title fight, we must remember some of theses fighters had lost, but they became Champions, the modern boxing fans are a hard to please bunch, you would have to agree are we not.