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    Default If Broner had made the right decision and went to 140 first...

    How would he have done?? Would he still have his 0?? I think Broner vs Khan at the weight would have been interesting if they were at 140 at the same time. Going off the Maidana fight I think Garcia or Matthysse would have beaten him. Provodnikov could wear him down too I think

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    He would've kept his 0 for a bit longer and got unbearably cocky till Garcia sparked him out!

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    He was quoted as saying " after I beat Maidana , matthysse is next " so if he would have gone to 140 first and fault matthysse he would have still lost he's 0. I never thought he would have stayed undefeated he never really focused on the sport to much and was going to all these parties and tryin to be a rapper he was bound to get schooled someday

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    Default Re: If Broner had made the right decision and went to 140 first...

    Quote Originally Posted by Maravilla2012 View Post
    He was quoted as saying " after I beat Maidana , matthysse is next " so if he would have gone to 140 first and fault matthysse he would have still lost he's 0. I never thought he would have stayed undefeated he never really focused on the sport to much and was going to all these parties and tryin to be a rapper he was bound to get schooled someday

    I think you touched on his problem pretty good. Hubris as I've said before but a hubris built on what was supposed to be rather then what was. I dont see any fighter remaining undefeated if they were to fight those they should or would have say in another era. The problem with much of the hubris in boxing today is that its based on padded or protected records. These guys think they are Hannibal w/o the battles. Broner is a hard guy to discuss because he was hated so much but I think you made a good point on his approach. Like Froch in the first Groves fight, he believed that all he had to do to beat Maidana was show up. He believed that there was no way a rinse and repeat come forward plodder was going to beat him even on his worst day.

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    Default Re: If Broner had made the right decision and went to 140 first...

    I think Broner would have ruled 140lb including Garcia.
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    Default Re: If Broner had made the right decision and went to 140 first...

    I honestly don't think 140 would have made a difference as long as his lackadaisical and self anointed attitude remained the same, equally unless it changes, and he refines his fundamentals it won't make a world of difference in the future.

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    Default Re: If Broner had made the right decision and went to 140 first...

    I also think a run at 140 prior to fighting at welter would have ended the same way with a loss now that he is dropping down I think Broner makes for some exciting fights not sure I favor Broner over Garcia, Matthysse but I want to see the fights
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    Provodnikov would kill him. He would never beat that guy, he doesn't have the mentality or style. Provodnikov would've stopped him and beaten him worse than Maidana. Garcia would've given him issues as well by taking advantage of Broners stationary style. Not sure that Matthysse beats broner though. Style wise I feel Adrian might have his number.

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    Broker is the smaller version of berto. Lots of heart but not smart enough to make the necessary changes to be at the top. Like changing their corner / fighting smarter instead of tryina mimic Floyd which they've both done

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    Default Re: If Broner had made the right decision and went to 140 first...

    I don't think it would of made a difference personally, its all to do with how much Broner applies himself and chooses to learn. Sure if he had gone to 140, trained hard to back his ego up and learned his craft I'm sure his career would be looking very different right now.
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    Default Re: If Broner had made the right decision and went to 140 first...

    With his blown up ego and shitty work ethic, I think the same would have happened ay 140..

    I dont consider maidana as a real WW anyways.. he's a blown up 140 pounder.. its not as if he gained significant power at the higher weight. He's pretty much the same guy who would have beaten broner at 140 too..

    Many guys at 140 would beat broner.. lucas, garcia, and even peterson would do him in...

    Broner made a mistake of blowing up in between fights and not taking himself more seriously.. had he put himself in check, he could have outboxed broner easily.

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    Default Re: If Broner had made the right decision and went to 140 first...

    huge mistake going to WW

    i reckon at 140 he can mix with the best

    if he had taken his time a bit more he could have been the best
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    Default Re: If Broner had made the right decision and went to 140 first...

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    huge mistake going to WW

    i reckon at 140 he can mix with the best

    if he had taken his time a bit more he could have been the best
    It was only a mistake cause he lost. And he lost to a guy the same size who he was supposed to beat with ease. I'm a fan of Broner but this weight excuse does not pass the litmus test. Its become the go to guy whenever a favourite loses. Even Garcia used it for his last less then stellar performance. They both looked past their opponents.

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    Maidana is a 140 pounder, n broner looked bigger to me. It wasn't like broner was fighting tommy Hearns or Paul Williams. Marcos is an average to small WW. It was basically two jr welters fighting up a weight. Broner is a hype job

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