If Broner had made the right decision and went to 140 first...

[Maravilla2012]

He was quoted as saying " after I beat Maidana , matthysse is next " so if he would have gone to 140 first and fault matthysse he would have still lost he's 0. I never thought he would have stayed undefeated he never really focused on the sport to much and was going to all these parties and tryin to be a rapper he was bound to get schooled someday

[IamInuit]

He was quoted as saying " after I beat Maidana , matthysse is next " so if he would have gone to 140 first and fault matthysse he would have still lost he's 0. I never thought he would have stayed undefeated he never really focused on the sport to much and was going to all these parties and tryin to be a rapper he was bound to get schooled someday

I think you touched on his problem pretty good. Hubris as I've said before but a hubris built on what was supposed to be rather then what was. I dont see any fighter remaining undefeated if they were to fight those they should or would have say in another era. The problem with much of the hubris in boxing today is that its based on padded or protected records. These guys think they are Hannibal w/o the battles. Broner is a hard guy to discuss because he was hated so much but I think you made a good point on his approach. Like Froch in the first Groves fight, he believed that all he had to do to beat Maidana was show up. He believed that there was no way a rinse and repeat come forward plodder was going to beat him even on his worst day.

[Master]

I think Broner would have ruled 140lb including Garcia.

[Spicoli]

I honestly don't think 140 would have made a difference as long as his lackadaisical and self anointed attitude remained the same, equally unless it changes, and he refines his fundamentals it won't make a world of difference in the future.

[La Cucaracha]

I also think a run at 140 prior to fighting at welter would have ended the same way with a loss now that he is dropping down I think Broner makes for some exciting fights not sure I favor Broner over Garcia, Matthysse but I want to see the fights

[IamInuit]

I don't think weight had anything to do with and its such a pad excuse these days. He's an easy welter and Maidana is no bigger then he is. He was drunk with ego and lost in his own little world and got a wake up call. Whether he wakes up and takes his craft serious is up to him. He could be a little to fragile upstairs or maybe he decides to put in the hard work.

[Beanflicker]

If he fought Matthysse the same way he fought Maidana he would have gotten killed too. I agree with Inuit, it had more to do with ego and fighting a stupid fight IMO.

[p4pking]

I don't think weight had anything to do with and its such a pad excuse these days. He's an easy welter and Maidana is no bigger then he is. He was drunk with ego and lost in his own little world and got a wake up call. Whether he wakes up and takes his craft serious is up to him. He could be a little to fragile upstairs or maybe he decides to put in the hard work.

Exactly, Maidana is no bigger than Garcia, Matthyse, or Provodnikov either. Who knows if he or Broner would have beat any of those guys, at whatever weight.