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    Default Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    1. Old Age

    2. Underestimating Maidana

    3. Distractions due to situation with his ex-fiance

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    I'll say 2 because he thought he could stay right in front of him. I thought he could too. But Marcos has gotten so much better. I thought it was an illusion but it isn't. He has a good jab now. Combine that with power and a will to walk through walls and you have something.

    The very few times Floyd moved laterally it was one sided but face to face it was even and awesome.

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    I agree with old age and underestimating Maidana.

    THE biggest reason though was Maidana showing NO RESPECT and NO FEAR.

    No one has done that in many years, even Cotto showed Floyd a great deal of respect.

    Floyd did not have the intimidation/ invincible factor going for him this time. That's how upsets happen. 40 or more of 45 opponents never truly believed they could win.

    Maidana believed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    1. Old Age

    2. Underestimating Maidana

    3. Distractions due to situation with his ex-fiance
    I don't think he struggled all that much.

    He landed some serious combos and bodyshots while defending well off the ropes.

    Maidana didn't really land all that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    1. Old Age

    2. Underestimating Maidana

    3. Distractions due to situation with his ex-fiance
    I don't think he struggled all that much.

    He landed some serious combos and bodyshots while defending well off the ropes.

    Maidana didn't really land all that much.
    Dude, he landed like 225 punches. Who lands 225 punches on Floyd? Give Maidana the respect he earned.

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    I had this fight scored a draw.... if Maidana had won rounds 11 like he did 12, he would have won by one point on my cards.

    With that being said, I knew it would have gone something like this. Maidana is good at what he does, and Floyd can't deal very well with volume punchers- Maidana, Manny, Agustus were volume punchers.

    When you can average 60 punches a round against Floyd, you are in the fight. For real.
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    Maidana didn't land all that much. It wasn't that close

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Maidana didn't land all that much. It wasn't that close
    He didn't land as much as he should've. Those clubbing overhand punches against the ropes were worthless. What he should've done is stepped back and evened out his shots and focused on the body more against the ropes. That being said, Floud did feel his power and showed it by grasping.

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    Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one
    ^^^^Real talk....And that's coming from a guy that doesn't even like Floyd.



    I didn't see Floyd get hit with anything silly...and as Broner can tell you...Maidana throws from some silly angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one
    I agree with the above.

    I also would like to know whether floyd HAD to go to the ropes or CHOSE to go to the ropes...just like with cotto he might have chose to exchange more but I had this fight alot closer..7-5 floyd.

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one
    Pretty much this. I had it 9-3 for Mayweather. Maidana did ok. But he also cheated a lot. Headbutts, low blows and at one point he tried to knee Mayweather. Somehow, that translates to Maidana showing effective aggression. In reality, effective aggression still has to allow you to land punched for it to be effective. Nullyfying someone by keeping them on the ropes doesn't win you rounds unless you land cleanly, especially when Mayweather still finds time to land a couple of really clean combos. This happened in probably 10 of the 12 rounds, and in at least 4 or 5 of the rounds, Maidana was visibly outclassed.

    It just wasn't close. It was competitive. I don't particularly want to see a rematch. It wasn't that exciting. It was full of fouls and clinching. I dread the day he is in a close fight tho. The way the judging is going lately, he's going to get a bull shit loss.
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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one
    Yep, i go along with this. Maidana did everything he could and he did make it hard for Floyd. We've all become so accustomed to Floyd taking charge and coasting to the inevitable end that when somebody like Maidana gives him a genuine tough fight we're all a little shocked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    1. Old Age

    2. Underestimating Maidana

    3. Distractions due to situation with his ex-fiance
    I don't think he struggled all that much.

    He landed some serious combos and bodyshots while defending well off the ropes.

    Maidana didn't really land all that much.
    Dude, he landed like 225 punches. Who lands 225 punches on Floyd? Give Maidana the respect he earned.
    He didn't land anywhere near 225 punches....get your eyes checked.

    Floyd had the better body attack by far and landed the cleanest and HARDEST punches.

    Mayweather didn't get hit with anything stupid.

    Floyd beat Maidana at his own game.
    Maidana had all the chances he could ask for and couldn't get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    1. Old Age

    2. Underestimating Maidana

    3. Distractions due to situation with his ex-fiance
    I don't think he struggled all that much.

    He landed some serious combos and bodyshots while defending well off the ropes.

    Maidana didn't really land all that much.
    Dude, he landed like 225 punches. Who lands 225 punches on Floyd? Give Maidana the respect he earned.
    He didn't land anywhere near 225 punches....get your eyes checked.

    Floyd had the better body attack by far and landed the cleanest and HARDEST punches.

    Mayweather didn't get hit with anything stupid.

    Floyd beat Maidana at his own game.
    Maidana had all the chances he could ask for and couldn't get it done.
    Compubox says 221. That's quite close to 225 haha

    I agree Floyd landed the harder body shots but Maidana got inn a few good one and a lot of others.

    I agree Floyd landed the cleaner and harder shots. That's why he won.

    But that doesn't mean it wasn't a good hard fight.

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