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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    1. Old Age

    2. Underestimating Maidana

    3. Distractions due to situation with his ex-fiance
    I don't think he struggled all that much.

    He landed some serious combos and bodyshots while defending well off the ropes.

    Maidana didn't really land all that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    1. Old Age

    2. Underestimating Maidana

    3. Distractions due to situation with his ex-fiance
    I don't think he struggled all that much.

    He landed some serious combos and bodyshots while defending well off the ropes.

    Maidana didn't really land all that much.
    Dude, he landed like 225 punches. Who lands 225 punches on Floyd? Give Maidana the respect he earned.

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    I had this fight scored a draw.... if Maidana had won rounds 11 like he did 12, he would have won by one point on my cards.

    With that being said, I knew it would have gone something like this. Maidana is good at what he does, and Floyd can't deal very well with volume punchers- Maidana, Manny, Agustus were volume punchers.

    When you can average 60 punches a round against Floyd, you are in the fight. For real.
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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Maidana didn't land all that much. It wasn't that close

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Maidana didn't land all that much. It wasn't that close
    He didn't land as much as he should've. Those clubbing overhand punches against the ropes were worthless. What he should've done is stepped back and evened out his shots and focused on the body more against the ropes. That being said, Floud did feel his power and showed it by grasping.

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by DannyV297 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Maidana didn't land all that much. It wasn't that close
    He didn't land as much as he should've. Those clubbing overhand punches against the ropes were worthless. What he should've done is stepped back and evened out his shots and focused on the body more against the ropes. That being said, Floud did feel his power and showed it by grasping.
    Floyd was landing good counter shots to the body off the ropes...those were hardly "worthless".Scoring blows are never worthless in a prize-fight.

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Not as dominant as I expected (I thought it might be a late KO) but still a clear victory for Floyd (some wad reckons it was a "draw" above, must be C J Ross's husband lol).

    You should have added a FOURTH possibility...

    Imo the most accurate one...

    4. Maybe, just maybe, he had a bad night.. And maybe in addition, Marcos had a good night. That's life!

    Seems like a passable reason to me for the champ.

    But credit to Maidana, he's no fluke now, he's a serious factor in the division.

    His performance against Floyd will probably make Broner feel a little better now LOL. Maybe we'll hear that mouth open again soon!!
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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by DannyV297 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Maidana didn't land all that much. It wasn't that close
    He didn't land as much as he should've. Those clubbing overhand punches against the ropes were worthless. What he should've done is stepped back and evened out his shots and focused on the body more against the ropes. That being said, Floud did feel his power and showed it by grasping.
    I was waiting for someone to bring up Floyd's holding.... that's the most I have seen Money hold like that, ever. Floyd NEVER holds....
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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one
    ^^^^Real talk....And that's coming from a guy that doesn't even like Floyd.



    I didn't see Floyd get hit with anything silly...and as Broner can tell you...Maidana throws from some silly angles.

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    Anyone who thinks it was Floyd getting old in there is a jackass.

    This is a brand new Chino who was supremely prepared and came in with a fantastic game plan. He fought great defensively: Floyd had more trouble hitting him clean than I remember of any Floyd opponent in a long time. And that wasn't a fluke. Floyd landed at a high %, but most of those landed shots were either partially blocked or Chino was rolling away from.

    Chino mixed up his attack and really kept Floyd guessing. Sometimes he'd bullrush, sometimes he'd sit behind a very effective power-jab that was clearly bothering Floyd at times, and sometimes he'd become the boxer/puncher looking to set up a haymaker.

    Mayweather had a tough night in there and almost lost the fight. Chino turned the heat up and fought his fight a lot of the rounds. It's very rare to see someone else dictating the pace of a fight against Mayweather.

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    I should clarify that yeah, Floyd IS getting old and has been getting "old" for the past few years. Floyd is out of his prime and is nowhere near as quick as he once was.

    But it's stupid to use that as a reason. This Floyd was no difference than the Floyd who completely whitewashed Canelo last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one
    I agree with the above.

    I also would like to know whether floyd HAD to go to the ropes or CHOSE to go to the ropes...just like with cotto he might have chose to exchange more but I had this fight alot closer..7-5 floyd.

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one
    Pretty much this. I had it 9-3 for Mayweather. Maidana did ok. But he also cheated a lot. Headbutts, low blows and at one point he tried to knee Mayweather. Somehow, that translates to Maidana showing effective aggression. In reality, effective aggression still has to allow you to land punched for it to be effective. Nullyfying someone by keeping them on the ropes doesn't win you rounds unless you land cleanly, especially when Mayweather still finds time to land a couple of really clean combos. This happened in probably 10 of the 12 rounds, and in at least 4 or 5 of the rounds, Maidana was visibly outclassed.

    It just wasn't close. It was competitive. I don't particularly want to see a rematch. It wasn't that exciting. It was full of fouls and clinching. I dread the day he is in a close fight tho. The way the judging is going lately, he's going to get a bull shit loss.
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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    While I applaud Maidana's effort, I don't particularly like this tactic of pushing someone against the ropes, sometimes using the head to do so as well, and teeing off with looping shots. With Maidana having the weight advantage, this helped him shove Mayweather against the ropes sometimes. I'm just not sure this is a technique that makes boxing enjoyable. I find it sort of ugly and questionable as a "skill". I mean, this is boxing and not MMA. Cornering on the ropes is fine but not gluing someone to the ropes with your weight. That said, Mayweather needs to take better care then to end up cornered so often.

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