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    Default techniques you feel aren't used enough?

    What comes to mind for me is jabbing out. It's a great way to finish an exchange and escape clean after an exchange but I don't see it often. Nacho seems to teach it and a younger Hatton used it. But I don't seem to see it often.

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    Default Re: techniques you feel aren't used enough?

    Double and triple jabbing, particularly amongst pressure fighters and swarmers.

    Just because you're not a slickster, doesn't mean you have to lead with your head and come in with a power punch. Jake Lamotta really had a lot of success doing this against SRR, he'd bore in by flicking the double/triple jab and then dig to the body or the head, often throwing the left hook off of the last jab.

    I agree 100% with jabbing out, too. It's always beautiful to see a guy land a good combo on the inside and then jab as he's stepping out. It usually lands because at that point the opponent thinks the attack is over and the hands are just coming down.

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    The jab is the best weapon and it won the fight for Mattysse because he kept on using inside. Excellent performance from him. Remember Israel Vasquez had a great jab and got him out of trouble when hurt a number of times. McCallum had a brilliant jab too.

    I also like fighters who finish combinations with a left hook. It is a safe way to finish a combination and Terry Noriss used it often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The jab is the best weapon and it won the fight for Mattysse because he kept on using inside. Excellent performance from him. Remember Israel Vasquez had a great jab and got him out of trouble when hurt a number of times. McCallum had a brilliant jab too.

    I also like fighters who finish combinations with a left hook. It is a safe way to finish a combination and Terry Noriss used it often.
    That's funny I was thinking about the left hook as I read your post. How most people have shortened the jab, straight right, left hook combination to exclude the left hook. From a safety perspective I understand that but both should be employed at the proper times.

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    I was never coached to use the jab, straight, left hook. Do you escape left generally, turn and reset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I was never coached to use the jab, straight, left hook. Do you escape left generally, turn and reset?
    Yes, all the great trainers insisted on it for that reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I was never coached to use the jab, straight, left hook. Do you escape left generally, turn and reset?
    Yes, all the great trainers insisted on it for that reason.

    That was one of the first real combinations other than a one-two that I was taught. And forced to practice it regularly. But that was 25 years ago.

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    Default Re: techniques you feel aren't used enough?

    Right on about the jab in general. Seems like a lot of it today is flick jab, throw away jabs to blind but you don't see a lot of stabbing to the boby, hard double jabbing to offset a guy. As simplistic as it sounds..basic combination punching and we need less of this trap boxing..setting up for the big counters prematurely. Fire before the smoke even churns.

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    I was told a jab can be hard, fast, soft, range finder, stay busy, type action. It is the first thing a tired fighters forgets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frasd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I was never coached to use the jab, straight, left hook. Do you escape left generally, turn and reset?
    Yes, all the great trainers insisted on it for that reason.

    That was one of the first real combinations other than a one-two that I was taught. And forced to practice it regularly. But that was 25 years ago.
    Yeah, we always did the combination on the mits but it was never really part of our match plan. I've always been tall for my class so our approach was jab heavy, one two, throwaway hooks and straight rights. Could have been because my left hook sucked too.

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    More of a concept but Switching stances... I really like the idea of changing lanes. Not this short sighted idea of keeping your opponent guessing but working on your opponents weaknesses where applicable. Won't work on a whim but there are plenty of scenarios where simply changing stances would be mostly beneficial.

    Its the same principle as keeping fighter on the backfoot, or making then chase you. That's just the x axis.

    If you can master the y axis then you're going to be at an advantage.

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    Default Re: techniques you feel aren't used enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    What comes to mind for me is jabbing out. It's a great way to finish an exchange and escape clean after an exchange but I don't see it often. Nacho seems to teach it and a younger Hatton used it. But I don't seem to see it often.
    The bob & weave.

    It's a lost art that is sorely missing...especially at heavyweight.

    If that style were still being used we would not be stuck with those dead ass lumbering heavyweights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    What comes to mind for me is jabbing out. It's a great way to finish an exchange and escape clean after an exchange but I don't see it often. Nacho seems to teach it and a younger Hatton used it. But I don't seem to see it often.
    The bob & weave.

    It's a lost art that is sorely missing...especially at heavyweight.

    If that style were still being used we would not be stuck with those dead ass lumbering heavyweights.
    Alex Lepai did not have basis head movement against Wlad.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    What comes to mind for me is jabbing out. It's a great way to finish an exchange and escape clean after an exchange but I don't see it often. Nacho seems to teach it and a younger Hatton used it. But I don't seem to see it often.
    The bob & weave.

    It's a lost art that is sorely missing...especially at heavyweight.

    If that style were still being used we would not be stuck with those dead ass lumbering heavyweights.
    Alex Lepai did not have basis head movement against Wlad.
    None of them have basic head movement.

    Bob and Weaving is too gruelling for today's fighters to master.

    Too bad because it works best against guys that pull straight back like Vlad...Vitali...and Lewis.

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    Default Re: techniques you feel aren't used enough?

    ....yup, it's oh so simple to beat those guys


    "Just bob & weave"


    Yeah don't worry about reach, timing, the other fighter closing you down and tying you up, just "bob & weave" it's too simple


    Leapai didn't move his head, but even if he did his hands were way too slow. Guys have attempted to bob & weave vs all those big heavyweights and more often than not it doesn't work because those big heavyweights are also smart, they know their weaknesses and they cover them up strategically.

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