Sydney Seige

[Beanz]

Hostage situation in the Lindt Cafe in Martins place Sydney.

[Beanz]

People with hands against the glass inside and armed police have cordoned off and evacuated the area.

[walrus]

Does it involve muslims

[Xwetie]

Does it involve muslims

It does, middle eastern guy, speculation says it got to do with ISIS.

Live link, still going on! 5 people have escaped from the cafe from a backdoor, 3 boys and 3 girls!

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[Dark Lord Al]

Islam once again declares war on the civilised world. When do we take it seriously.
No muslims condemn it so we can only deduce that they agree with it.

[SugarBoxing]

Reminds me of Face Off movie, now all serious of course

[Gandalf]

Islam once again declares war on the civilised world. When do we take it seriously.
No muslims condemn it so we can only deduce that they agree with it.

By the same token, why aren't Bush and Blair in The Hague? How can the Muslim world take us seriously? An invasion of nations or isolated acts of revenge? The invasion is illegal and the revenge a consequence of the the invasion. The thug that started the riot is ultimately responsible. This is blowback. It isn't right or proper, but is the natural consequence of illegal invasion, murder, rendition and torture. Using your same logic the lack of outrage by the general public in the West means that we agree with our elite crooks. It doesn't quite work like that though does it Al.

[brocktonblockbust]

http://news.yahoo.com/major-police-o...235744145.html

[Gandalf]

Very bad, but isolated incidents of blow back are a natural response to Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and Syria. The torturing, renditioning, murdering war criminals are responsible for the invasions and thus all incidents of blow back like this IMO. When a million are dead in Iraq alone, imagine how many scarred relatives are still out there, and how many will have a life long hatred of the Anglo-American war criminals. I'm only surprised there isn't more of this. It is very bad and wrong, but it is a logical outcome of illegal savagery.

[brocktonblockbust]

Very bad, but isolated incidents of blow back are a natural response to Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and Syria. The torturing, renditioning, murdering war criminals are responsible for the invasions and thus all incidents of blow back like this IMO. When a million are dead in Iraq alone, imagine how many scarred relatives are still out there, and how many will have a life long hatred of the Anglo-American war criminals. I'm only surprised there isn't more of this. It is very bad and wrong, but it is a logical outcome of illegal savagery.

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Its true. If we just take the simple law of physics, (morals and opinions aside), if A invades B and most people in B believe it was wrong, then there will be a reaction from B back to A. This could be what this is, or it could not be. I dont know the details yet. But YES blowback is a real phenomenon that any human being would exhibit if he/she perceives any cruelty or wrongdoing against them.

[Beanflicker]

And here people want us to feel bad because of the torture carried out post-9/11.

I think you have to use fire with fire. There's no talking to these savages, brute force must be met with brute force.

All civilized countries should get together and just agree that whenever someone attacks a civilized country in the name of Islam, we drone attack an Islamic country at random.

[Andre]

Isis have made calls all over the internet asking single men who are on side to take up the cause in the name of Islam and hit a western target in their own countries ;abduct and execute random westerners.

This is about a religion taking over the world of politics then you.

They never forget they never forgive they teach hatred and vengeance to their young.

If we were the same and taught the same we would all be against all Germans and Japs to this day,the world would cease to roll.

[Beanz]

And here people want us to feel bad because of the torture carried out post-9/11.

I think you have to use fire with fire. There's no talking to these savages, brute force must be met with brute force.

All civilized countries should get together and just agree that whenever someone attacks a civilized country in the name of Islam, we drone attack an Islamic country at random.

That's hilarious and all that but kind of ignores the FACT that torture victims just tell you what you want to hear and that the torture carried out in the name of people, in what you would call the civilized world, did diddly squat but drag the perpetrators of it down to the terrorists level. Drone attacking anything randomly is no better than planting a bomb amongst innocent civilians. How about the IRA, were they part of a civilised country when Americans were arming them ?

[pacfan]

I told you fellas it's time to nuke 'em insane cowards. The latest news is that some of them killed more than 100 school children in Pakistan... and again, the rest of the world will just sit and do nothing. Tsk, tsk. this world is in the pits...

[Master]

I told you fellas it's time to nuke 'em insane cowards. The latest news is that some of them killed more than 100 school children in Pakistan... and again, the rest of the world will just sit and do nothing. Tsk, tsk. this world is in the pits...

So nuke them would help the innocent women and children how?