Manny & Floyds run of opponents...wow

[oakleyno1]

Just picked out what i think are the best run of fights for each guy and wowie! For botht o be fair but Pac espesh - that is unreal! Froch's run of fights is amazing but I think Pac's must be the best in the sport - perhaps until algeri and rios anyway...

Have to say in terms of legacy it looks like Pac runs away with it despite the common opponents - but still I would say it's a pick em fight at their peaks (Mayweather when he beat Hatton - an arguble prime anyway) and Pac when he beat Cotto - again arguable prime

[Gandalf]

I prefer Manny's opponent history. He generally destroys opponents that Mayweather has a tough time with and fights opponents that Mayweather wouldn't face. Plus even though Mayweather beat Marquez better, he had to cheat with the weight and not even making weight to do it. Pac has the added depth with the quality of Barrera and Morales, whilst Mayweather has too much filler like Maidana, Ortiz and Guerrrero. Pac would blitz each of those guys, whereas Mayweather went 36 rounds and again cheated, but this time with a sucker punch. Manny really annoyed me by beating up Barrera and Hatton, but time heals the fanboy scars.

[AdamGB]

I prefer Manny's opponent history. He generally destroys opponents that Mayweather has a tough time with and fights opponents that Mayweather wouldn't face. Plus even though Mayweather beat Marquez better, he had to cheat with the weight and not even making weight to do it. Pac has the added depth with the quality of Barrera and Morales, whilst Mayweather has too much filler like Maidana, Ortiz and Guerrrero. Pac would blitz each of those guys, whereas Mayweather went 36 rounds and again cheated, but this time with a sucker punch. Manny really annoyed me by beating up Barrera and Hatton, but time heals the fanboy scars.

So Floyd used weight against JMM to an advantage but Manny 'the catchweight king' doesn't fight weight drained opponents every other fight?

Floyd not coming in on weight against JMM was poor, but don't act like he out muscled and out brawled JMM in that fight... The difference in skill was substantial, JMM was out thought, not out fought.

[Beanflicker]

Floyd not coming in on weight against JMM was poor, but don't act like he out muscled and out brawled JMM in that fight... The difference in skill was substantial, JMM was out thought, not out fought.

That's a key point that gets left out. Floyd didn't fight a "big man" fight. The advantages you would normally give to a smaller fighter - speed, skill, reflexes, ect - were all to Floyd's advantage. Floyd completely outclassed one of the greatest fighters of this generation.

I love how people act like the JMM Floyd fought at WW was a different guy altogether than the JMM Pac fought at WW. JMM was leaner in the Pac fight for sure, but he weighed in at 142 to fight Floyd and 142/143 to fight Pac.

[oakleyno1]

Floyd not coming in on weight against JMM was poor, but don't act like he out muscled and out brawled JMM in that fight... The difference in skill was substantial, JMM was out thought, not out fought.

That's a key point that gets left out. Floyd didn't fight a "big man" fight. The advantages you would normally give to a smaller fighter - speed, skill, reflexes, ect - were all to Floyd's advantage. Floyd completely outclassed one of the greatest fighters of this generation.

I love how people act like the JMM Floyd fought at WW was a different guy altogether than the JMM Pac fought at WW. JMM was leaner in the Pac fight for sure, but he weighed in at 142 to fight Floyd and 142/143 to fight Pac.

But you do have to factor in how Mayweather and Marquez would have fought knowing Marquez very likely couldn't hurt Floyd.

Not that its not a good win - in fact it's probably a great win - Marquez is clearly Pacs bogey fighter - Mayweather arguebly doesn't have one except Castillo - although I thought he lost the first fight he did adapt and beat him pretty convincingly the 2nd - unlike Manny and JMM fights

[erics44]

Mannys has been unbelieveable hasnt it, for years

has there ever been a better/tougher/more impressive run of opponents?

[Beanflicker]

But you do have to factor in how Mayweather and Marquez would have fought knowing Marquez very likely couldn't hurt Floyd.

Not that its not a good win - in fact it's probably a great win - Marquez is clearly Pacs bogey fighter - Mayweather arguebly doesn't have one except Castillo - although I thought he lost the first fight he did adapt and beat him pretty convincingly the 2nd - unlike Manny and JMM fights

Yeah JMM isn't a true WW in the modern sense (neither is Floyd to be fair), but JMM dropped and KTFO Manny at WW so he did have potential to hurt Floyd with a good counter, had he been able to land, but yeah JMM doesn't have WW power.

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Marquez

[imp]

Such a joke reading these as each fan will always defend the other but theres no defending pacs losses.

Thats why mayweather is the best and beats all eras of manny.

So manny beating cotto was at his weight? Manny beat a better version of hatton? Manny beat a post margacheato mosely? Would manny fight canelo? So clottey beats maidana?..

There will always be an excuse for each fighter but manny has been beaten and exposed 5 times already and khan could easily expose him again if they (bob) decide to duck floyd again for the third time!!

[chris6878]

Such a joke reading these as each fan will always defend the other but theres no defending pacs losses.

Thats why mayweather is the best and beats all eras of manny.

So manny beating cotto was at his weight? Manny beat a better version of hatton? Manny beat a post margacheato mosely? Would manny fight canelo? So clottey beats maidana?..

There will always be an excuse for each fighter but manny has been beaten and exposed 5 times already and khan could easily expose him again if they (bob) decide to duck floyd again for the third time!!

I knew you would come in to throw some pac hate and floyd ball sac sucking in the thread. Gotta defend your honey boo boo.

[imp]

Such a joke reading these as each fan will always defend the other but theres no defending pacs losses.

Thats why mayweather is the best and beats all eras of manny.

So manny beating cotto was at his weight? Manny beat a better version of hatton? Manny beat a post margacheato mosely? Would manny fight canelo? So clottey beats maidana?..

There will always be an excuse for each fighter but manny has been beaten and exposed 5 times already and khan could easily expose him again if they (bob) decide to duck floyd again for the third time!!

I knew you would come in to throw some pac hate and floyd ball sac sucking in the thread. Gotta defend your honey boo boo.

Chris,

At least reply with something that can contribute instead of just hating.

Come on matey, its obvious I will side with money (avatar!?) but at least Put up a decent arguement instead of calling names.

I dont hate pac I dislike his boss and I prefer khan..

It really shows your immaturity so please learn from this..

[Fenster]

That's why in the future Pac will be seen as the greater fighter. In the end, boxing aficionados wont be looking at money generated or PPV figures, they'll just be judged by who they fought.

Unless Floyd actually faces - and beats - Pac. Then it all changes, of course.

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That's why in the future Pac will be seen as the greater fighter. In the end, boxing aficionados wont be looking at money generated or PPV figures, they'll just be judged by who they fought.

Unless Floyd actually faces - and beats - Pac. Then it all changes, of course.

Better fighter - pac

Better boxer - floyd

Does a better fighter beat a better boxer?...let history determine that answer.

[AdamGB]

In the end, boxing aficionados wont be looking at money generated or PPV figures, they'll just be judged by who they fought.

Most of the time anyway...

[brucelee]

That's why in the future Pac will be seen as the greater fighter. In the end, boxing aficionados wont be looking at money generated or PPV figures, they'll just be judged by who they fought.

Unless Floyd actually faces - and beats - Pac. Then it all changes, of course.

Well said.