If the first fight with Castillo was counted as a loss and the first with Maidana as well a loss. Would Mayweather be as big as he is now? Would he have been the cash cow ever?
Yes or no?
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If Floyd had losses
If the first fight with Castillo was counted as a loss and the first with Maidana as well a loss. Would Mayweather be as big as he is now? Would he have been the cash cow ever?
Yes or no?
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If he would have lost I think we'd see the best of Floyd in fights after that. He wouldn't be scared of losing and take tougher fights. Pacquiao lost and still is a top earner in the sport.
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I agree, I think Floyd would become more aggressive and show he does have power too and got more K.o's. Also Dela Hoya lost all of his big fights and was still the cash cow. I think as long as you got public appeal it don't matter if you lost or not. Does it matter for floyd?Originally Posted by Maravilla2012
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Why on earth would the first Maidana fight be a loss?
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Exactly my thought!
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judgesExactly my thought!
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I thought dlh was closer than maidana 1, I do t think either beat him thojudgesExactly my thought!
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If he had loss(es) I guess it would depend on who beat him and how.
Rather than claim he is undefeated, he'd claim he was robbed ala Bhop style & keep on fighting.
I think a loss would've required a rematch, to which he would've won-as did when his questionable victories were called into question
One thing for sure is that virtually all great fighters at some point got the benefit of the doubt.
Marciano was in a fight where his nose was near torn off. Any other fighter & it would've been stopped.
JCC got a gift draw vs Pernell.
Ali got gift wins like a kid gets gifts on Xmas.
Ray Leonard got a gift draw vs Hearns II..and stated he loss that fight hands down.
DLH got a gift win vs Quartey
Most big named fighters will always get the benefit of the doubt.
For the record, as close as the Castillo I fight was, I had Floyd winning 6-5-1, Floyd is undefeated.
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I thought Floyd won it but I'm using it as an example cause it is the only other close fight floyds been in. Cotto was good too but I thought Maidana did better.
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Bad judging, of course!
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Haha yeah, I think people are stretching it when they say Maidana and DLH should have been loses.Bad judging, of course!
The only time it can be argued Floyd lost was the first Castillo fight.
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The fight with Judah was a draw and the fight with Oscar was a loss as well.
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The fights with Judah was a disqualification after Roger jumped in the ring.The fight with Judah was a draw and the fight with Oscar was a loss as well.
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Many people already viewed Castillo 1 as a loss or at least way too close for comfort. Same with Maidana 1, Mayweather came back, adjusted and pretty much dominated. I think he'd be exactly where he is now whatever the numbers read like.
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Anywhere but Vegas & Floyd would have lost to Castillo & Maidana 1 Floyd didn't really adjust in the rematch with Maidana he just hired a minder who doubled as referee Kenny Bayless. Bayless was there to do a Cortez type job to make sure Maidana didn't get chance to fight. I said when Bayless was announced as ref that he would be a key factor in the fight. I never thought he would do what he did tho I used to think he was a good referee but now he's losty all credibility for me
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