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    Default What happened to Wlad?

    What do you think happened to Wlad in the Fury fight? Why did he look so bad? Is he just old?

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    Default Re: What happened to Wlad?

    He didn't have a reach advantage for a change, consequently he had to be ultra negative due to his phobia of getting tagged.

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    Default Re: What happened to Wlad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    He didn't have a reach advantage for a change, consequently he had to be ultra negative due to his phobia of getting tagged.
    On the money.

    The other thing to note, as much as Team Klitschko tried, they couldn't get one over on the Fury's before the fight.

    Team Fury tied Team Klit up in knots & would not accede to their demands or let them take the pee, the way they had done for years against other opponents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syntax Error View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    He didn't have a reach advantage for a change, consequently he had to be ultra negative due to his phobia of getting tagged.
    On the money.

    The other thing to note, as much as Team Klitschko tried, they couldn't get one over on the Fury's before the fight.

    Team Fury tied Team Klit up in knots & would not accede to their demands or let them take the pee, the way they had done for years against other opponents.
    I was at the Haye fight and saw the disgraceful 'gamesmanship'. The Furys obviously were there and learned from that, good luck to them. Haye let himself down by a) not telling the Klits to poke the fight and walk out, b) Not going for him big time, shit or bust c) Coming out with Toegate. To leave Haye standing in the rain for 20 minutes whilst there was a Klit life story being shown on video was disgraceful, the sanctioning bodies should have stepped in and didn't. They are the boxing ESTABLISHMENT! Other posters take note.

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    Default Re: What happened to Wlad?

    What happened to Wlad happened a long time ago. For all his physical gifts and boxing prowess (which is exceptional when he's not hugging), the man really dislikes getting hit on the chin. His losses are the type to make anyone gunshy, regardless of his height and build. He didn't barely lose on the scorecards; he got knocked out badly twice, and had some strange vapor-lock malfunction in with Lamon in the first fight. Since the Sanders and Brewster debacles, he's fought... let's say ''overly cautiously'' against some real powder-puffs. Here comes the most annoying twat on earth, Tyson Fury. But he's tall and gangly and brave or stupid. Tyson has shit for technique and dogshit power for a guy his size, but he can reach Wlad's chin and Wlad is taking no chances. That's all that happened. And it wasn't overnight.

    The question is does Wlad have the sack to let his hands go in the rematch and risk that glass chin against a chump like Fury, or does he play it safe yet again and hope the jab and occasional right carries the night?

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    Watch the Brewster fight again, Wlad simply hit the guy with everything he had....didn't pace himself at all, he had Brewster hurt and went for the KO and gassed....Wlad couldn't even hold his arms up, he saw the finish line in the fight when Brewster was hurt and when Brewster didn't wilt that finish line was MILES away.....he just didn't pace himself, and God damn he took some hellacious punches that fight as did Lamon. But in the rematch it was a piece of cake.

    vs Sanders there was no time to get in a rhythm during the fight, Sanders was supposed to be an easy fight, he looked past the guy because he thought he had deserved his shot vs Lewis right then....that impatience caught up with him right then. Sanders R.I.P, had an awkward delivery of his punches, very quick though and very powerful....a guy who could have been a lot more than what he was in the boxing world.


    vs Fury, I don't think many folks are afraid of Tyson Fury's power rightly or wrongly....he's a big lad but he's not a "puncher". I think Fury was awkward for him and Wlad just wasn't psyched for the fight at all...he figured Fury would come in and be flat like Haye was and that he'd be able to dictate the pace of the fight like always....I believe the rematch will be very different and if it isn't then it is time for Wlad to hang up the gloves.

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    Default Re: What happened to Wlad?

    A few factors were in play I believe.

    Firstly, he looked old: he looked in in his previous fight too.

    Secondly, met an opponent who was bigger, faster & slicker than him. Wladimir has been used to fighting smaller & less skilful men than him & he's nearly always had all the advantages.

    Thirdly, in the Fury's he met a fighter & a team of guys who would not allow Wladimir & his crew to intimidate them & dictate terms. The issues with the canvas being too soft & the Fury's threatening to pull out at the last minute if the canvas wasn't stiffened up was genius & really unsettled Wladimir.
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    Default Re: What happened to Wlad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    He didn't have a reach advantage for a change, consequently he had to be ultra negative due to his phobia of getting tagged.


    He was faced with an opponent he couldn't just clench all night long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    He didn't have a reach advantage for a change, consequently he had to be ultra negative due to his phobia of getting tagged.


    He was faced with an opponent he couldn't just clench all night long.
    It was as simple as this
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    He didn't have a reach advantage for a change, consequently he had to be ultra negative due to his phobia of getting tagged.


    He was faced with an opponent he couldn't just clench all night long.
    It was as simple as this
    And who was that down to?

    Wasnt just Tysons size or Wach would also have beaten Wlad

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    Aside from everything else that was mentioned....

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    Default Re: What happened to Wlad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    He didn't have a reach advantage for a change, consequently he had to be ultra negative due to his phobia of getting tagged.


    He was faced with an opponent he couldn't just clench all night long.
    It was as simple as this
    And who was that down to?

    Wasnt just Tysons size or Wach would also have beaten Wlad

    yeah it was down to fury, he did very well


    my point is tho, its a sad state of affairs that the way to beat the long reigning champion is to stop him holding


    coz really that's what fury did, avoid the clinch, its not like he landed lots of punches


    again tho im not knocking fury, he did absolutely the right thing, the ref and the judges wouldn't have stopped wlad holding or punished him for it so fury had no choice, it was a great game plan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    He didn't have a reach advantage for a change, consequently he had to be ultra negative due to his phobia of getting tagged.


    He was faced with an opponent he couldn't just clench all night long.
    I think Manny Steward would've given him the plan for a guy he couldn't do his usual clinching to.
    Not saying Wlad would've executed to perfection. But I think it was and still is a very winnable fight for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
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    He didn't have a reach advantage for a change, consequently he had to be ultra negative due to his phobia of getting tagged.


    He was faced with an opponent he couldn't just clench all night long.
    I think Manny Steward would've given him the plan for a guy he couldn't do his usual clinching to.
    Not saying Wlad would've executed to perfection. But I think it was and still is a very winnable fight for him.
    I do not think it would make a difference. The plan would be to get inside, throw volume punches and be aggressive. All the things that do not come natural to Wlad since his losses.
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    Default Re: What happened to Wlad?

    Manny would have advised Wlad to avoid the fight like he did with Chisora

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