how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

[Bill Paxtom]

Points that should have been deducted.

Cassius Clay

-1 ..... vs. Alonzo Johnson > {Running and Non-action}
-1 ..... vs. George Logan > {Possible Disqualification > Intentional thumbing}
-1 ..... vs. Archie Moore > {Holding and Hitting}
-1 ..... vs. Doug Jones > {Holding and Hitting}
-1 ..... vs. Sonny Liston > {Excessive Holding > Round 5}

-1 ..... vs. George Chuvalo > {Intentional Holding and Hitting}
-2 ..... vs. Ernie Terrell > {Intentional Thumbing, and Cuffing}

-1 ..... vs. Ken Norton I > {Illegal Punch}
-7 ..... vs. Joe Frazier II > {Excessive Holding}
-2 ..... vs. Ron Lyle > {Clowning and not exhibiting Professional Behavior}
-1 ..... vs. Alfredo Evangelista > {Clowning}
-2 ..... vs. Larry Holmes > {Not even trying to fight back}

[Master]

Forget you all. Ali is the greatest. You are all fools for agreeing with Bill. That alone tells you you are deluded.

[p4pking]

@p4pking I'll see you tomorrow night about 9 p.m.....oh and bring Blundetto with you bwaha

What time zone were you thinking? Im here Brockton, knocking out all bums!

[brocktonblockbust]

@p4pking I'll see you tomorrow night about 9 p.m.....oh and bring Blundetto with you bwaha

What time zone were you thinking? Im here Brockton, knocking out all bums!

i was thinking if daylight savings time was not in effect, we could do lunch on GMT 00:00 hours

[ykdadamaja]

Bill has to be George Foreman incognito. lololol.....

[Xwetie]

Nada eh~!

[brocktonblockbust]

could Bill be one of George's kids? Nahhh he's from Connnecticut but GF is from Texas.

[IamInuit]

One of the dirtiest of his era. Like watching the garbage Floyd got away with against Hatton in every other fight but not even in the top 50 ever.

[Bill Paxtom]

If a Muhammad Ali bout was on Television.

We switched over to watch re-runs of 'I Love Lucy'.

Nearly everyone of Ali's bouts were scripted, much like 'I Love Lucy'

[brocktonblockbust]

If a Muhammad Ali bout was on Television.

We switched over to watch re-runs of 'I Love Lucy'.

Nearly everyone of Ali's bouts were scripted, much like 'I Love Lucy'

Agreed. Esp. the Lyle bout and the 3rd Norton bout, total b.s. it was definitely choreographed. Refs paid off if anything went wrong.

[bradlee180]

In Ali/Frazier II, Ali initiated and clutched Frazier 147 times with not a single point taken by tony perez.

However, perez also called a premature end to rd 2 just when Ali stunned Frazier.
Frazier was let off the hook there and was given time to recover because of tony's incompetence.

I know these things because I decided to take out a sheet and score that fight a few years ago. Horrible excuse for a fight. I don't recommend trying to score it.

Ali and Frazier are certainly Legends and their other 2 fights are classics along with several of their other battles against other outstanding fighters ... but their 2nd fight, though hyped and ballyhooed to the public, held at Madison Square Garden and broadcast on Closed-Circuit tv, failed to deliver and turned out to be pure crapola which had everything to do with Ali's holding tactics that night and nothing to do with Frazier who always brought the fight to his opponent.



ps I never said I agreed with Bill. I was talking about that one fight with all the excessive holding.

[Bill Paxtom]

Points that should have been deducted.

Cassius Clay

-1 ..... vs. Alonzo Johnson > {Running and Non-action}
-1 ..... vs. George Logan > {Possible Disqualification > Intentional thumbing}
-1 ..... vs. Archie Moore > {Holding and Hitting}
-1 ..... vs. Doug Jones > {Holding and Hitting}
-1 ..... vs. Sonny Liston > {Excessive Holding > Round 5}

-1 ..... vs. George Chuvalo > {Intentional Holding and Hitting}
-2 ..... vs. Ernie Terrell > {Intentional Thumbing, and Cuffing}

-1 ..... vs. Ken Norton I > {Illegal Punch}
-7 ..... vs. Joe Frazier II > {Excessive Holding}
-2 ..... vs. Ron Lyle > {Clowning and not exhibiting Professional Behavior}
-1 ..... vs. Alfredo Evangelista > {Clowning}
-2 ..... vs. Larry Holmes > {Not even trying to fight back}

Sounds about right........

[AdamGB]

What type of cunt quotes himself and agrees with himself?

[AdamGB]

What type of cunt quotes himself and agrees with himself?

Sounds about right........

[brocktonblockbust]

What type of cunt quotes himself and agrees with himself?

Sounds about right........

haha but you gotta admit if he quoted himself and DISAGREED with himself it would be REALLY messed up!