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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
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    Oba Carr was the most talented fighter I ever saw that did not become a world champion. His boxing skills were outstanding.
    Tbh I disagree that he was wasted talent, I believe he just wasn't talented enough.

    He stepped up to world title fights like 3 or 4 times and got knocked out every time.
    Carr was very skilled fighter he dropped prime Tito and could have got the decision against Ike. His weakness was power and he was found wanting against Oscar but I think Carr was done by then. I just feel Carr could have achieved more for his talent.
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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    Danny Romero. He may have sabotaged himself with tunnel vision on Tapia.

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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

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    Danny Romero. He may have sabotaged himself with tunnel vision on Tapia.
    ...and alcoholism. Man he was talented

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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    James Scott

    He looked like one 'Bad Ass' who would never lose at 175 lbs.

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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    This guy has to be on the list.
    Marshall Martinez - Boxer
    His mom used to drive him to East LA every day to train at DLH's gym. He was disqualified in the Olympic Trials for slapping with his punches but still got a big signing bonus to turn pro. Nothing but attitude problems and he really loved being a Fontana hood hero.

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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    Willie de Witt

    Canadian Amateur Champion

    Had the 'goods' in the Amateur's and was thought to be a 'Star' in the Pro Ranks.

    He did the old 'Canadian Flap-Jack'.

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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Oba Carr was the most talented fighter I ever saw that did not become a world champion. His boxing skills were outstanding.
    Tbh I disagree that he was wasted talent, I believe he just wasn't talented enough.

    He stepped up to world title fights like 3 or 4 times and got knocked out every time.
    Carr was very skilled fighter he dropped prime Tito and could have got the decision against Ike. His weakness was power and he was found wanting against Oscar but I think Carr was done by then. I just feel Carr could have achieved more for his talent.
    I saw Oba Carr as a gatekeeper: good enough to make it to the top, but not good enough to beat those at the top.

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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    I thought Joan Guzman was going to be the second coming.

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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    Donovan 'Razor' Ruddock really should have done better....big guy, big power, good hands, but just didn't train well enough and didn't have a good chin.

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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    Mac Foster

    Flopped outside of Fresno, California.

    He was good, and had the potential to be at least a WBA Champion.

    Was supposed to challenge WBA Champion - Jimmy Ellis in late-1969,
    but the bout fell through.

    A better boxer than given credit for, but over-rated in his punching power.

    Too many easy early bouts against {Grade B} 'trial-horse' opponents.

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    'Big' John Tate .....cocaine got the best of him. He got injured before he got the chance to fight Larry Holmes and it was all downhill after that.

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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Donovan 'Razor' Ruddock really should have done better....big guy, big power, good hands, but just didn't train well enough and didn't have a good chin.
    Tyson hit it plenty of times and broke his jaw and busted his ribs. After that war the resistance was never the same.
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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    Cassius Clay

    He never really fought anybody real good {1960 thru 1967}, and he squandered
    a potentially great career.

    Most his bouts were either choreographed, or 'freak-shows'.

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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Cassius Clay

    He never really fought anybody real good {1960 thru 1967}, and he squandered
    a potentially great career.

    Most his bouts were either choreographed, or 'freak-shows'.
    That is the most stupid post ever. Congratulations.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscu

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Donovan 'Razor' Ruddock really should have done better....big guy, big power, good hands, but just didn't train well enough and didn't have a good chin.
    Tyson hit it plenty of times and broke his jaw and busted his ribs. After that war the resistance was never the same.
    Well he really should have been able to beat Tyson but I believe the hype got to him and he just fell in love with his power. Then his weight would yo-yo and he just never could get over the hump from being Contender to Champion.

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