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    Default Re: Quillen doesn't make weight, bout is a non title fight

    Quillen has been mismanaged since he changed promoters and has been used as a pawn for political/business/personal reasons.

    Relinquishing his title and not being active has led to him not making weight.

    What a prat for wasting his prime years.
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    Default Re: Quillen doesn't make weight, bout is a non title fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    I've read he will keep the title. So only good thing is,the fight is happening with Saunders.
    Havent fighters been stripped of titles if they lose even in a none title bout like this in the past?

    If Lee does get to keep the title even if he loses then Quillin has done him a financial favour really because he gets another decent payday to defend against Saunders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Ok. After a few years defending Quillin...I'm done. Pete you're on the shit list and frankly son, I hope Lee beats you. Zero excuse for that after long layoff. Effectively he has walked away from two championships. Enough
    I gave up on him when he ducked Korobov. Should not have done that.
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    Although Andy Lee can't lose the title, I always think that you can't take the result of a fight with a guy who didn't make weight at face value. If Quillin wins, there's always the doubt that he has taken less out of himself by not making the weight than the champ has in order to make the weight. If the champ wins, then the victory is slightly tarnished because the opponent had to take so much off to even try and make weight that he lost a lot of his strength. All in all, not a good build up to the fight.

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    Default Re: Quillen doesn't make weight, bout is a non title fight

    Very disappointed to hear this. I'm big on kid chocolate, still looking forward to the festivities tonight but no excuse for quill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I shouldn't have spoken on Quillen without all the facts. I thought he didn't really try to make weight but he did come back for a 2nd measurement and came significantly closer. So he did try. I was wrong and should not speak out of turn like that.


    Right there Ron is what you should never do.
    Since I don't know you I can only assume you are joking or a fan of someone that is put in soft and I'm calling for him to sack up. Which is it, are you a fan of guys that are put in soft or clever?

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    I was thinking of renewing my boxnation subscription to record and then watch this tomorrow morning as though live. Now I think I will save my twenty quid for Floyd/Manny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    I was thinking of renewing my boxnation subscription to record and then watch this tomorrow morning as though live. Now I think I will save my twenty quid for Floyd/Manny.
    It is 12 quid now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    Andy Lee vs. Peter Quillin Now a Non-Title Bout - Boxing News

    How shit is that? Will eke be able to keep the title if he loses?

    Surely if Lee wins he gets the title otherwise its a crock Quillen must forfeit the belt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    I was thinking of renewing my boxnation subscription to record and then watch this tomorrow morning as though live. Now I think I will save my twenty quid for Floyd/Manny.
    It is 12 quid now?
    Yeah but £8 registration even though I would actually be re-subscribing. It's nicer to watch fights on the telly even if it is the next morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
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    I was thinking of renewing my boxnation subscription to record and then watch this tomorrow morning as though live. Now I think I will save my twenty quid for Floyd/Manny.
    It is 12 quid now?
    Yeah but £8 registration even though I would actually be re-subscribing. It's nicer to watch fights on the telly even if it is the next morning.
    On virgin I am sure you pay no subscription fee.
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    Default Re: Quillen doesn't make weight, bout is a non title fight

    Quillen stays in the shadows. Maybe that is where he belongs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Ok. After a few years defending Quillin...I'm done. Pete you're on the shit list and frankly son, I hope Lee beats you. Zero excuse for that after long layoff. Effectively he has walked away from two championships. Enough
    I gave up on him when he ducked Korobov. Should not have done that.
    I don't think he ducked Korobov but let his strings be pulled by Haymon. But it did not look good at all. Still this growing attitude of "Meh, weight limit whatever" just kills me. I def think guys...groomed and steered would be stars...blow weight just looking at the next showcase opportunity. Its not like they arrive at the scales on 1 days notice ffs Quillin had a year to plan, practice and come in on weight. Guys with "a future" just throw money at the fine knowing the bigger payoff is ahead with a top notch performance. They...managers...can afford it. Its a terrible trend now with guys getting a promotional push.

    Honestly if a guy does not make weight, I don't think a win should be factor in rankings at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Ok. After a few years defending Quillin...I'm done. Pete you're on the shit list and frankly son, I hope Lee beats you. Zero excuse for that after long layoff. Effectively he has walked away from two championships. Enough
    I gave up on him when he ducked Korobov. Should not have done that.
    I don't think he ducked Korobov but let his strings be pulled by Haymon. But it did not look good at all. Still this growing attitude of "Meh, weight limit whatever" just kills me. I def think guys...groomed and steered would be stars...blow weight just looking at the next showcase opportunity. Its not like they arrive at the scales on 1 days notice ffs Quillin had a year to plan, practice and come in on weight. Guys with "a future" just throw money at the fine knowing the bigger payoff is ahead with a top notch performance. They...managers...can afford it. Its a terrible trend now with guys getting a promotional push.

    Honestly if a guy does not make weight, I don't think a win should be factor in rankings at all.
    Agreed because weight can dictate winning or losing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Ok. After a few years defending Quillin...I'm done. Pete you're on the shit list and frankly son, I hope Lee beats you. Zero excuse for that after long layoff. Effectively he has walked away from two championships. Enough
    I gave up on him when he ducked Korobov. Should not have done that.
    I don't think he ducked Korobov but let his strings be pulled by Haymon. But it did not look good at all. Still this growing attitude of "Meh, weight limit whatever" just kills me. I def think guys...groomed and steered would be stars...blow weight just looking at the next showcase opportunity. Its not like they arrive at the scales on 1 days notice ffs Quillin had a year to plan, practice and come in on weight. Guys with "a future" just throw money at the fine knowing the bigger payoff is ahead with a top notch performance. They...managers...can afford it. Its a terrible trend now with guys getting a promotional push.

    Honestly if a guy does not make weight, I don't think a win should be factor in rankings at all.
    Agreed because weight can dictate winning or losing.
    If a guy feels doing the work at the last minute will cost him in effectiveness, clearly he does. That's on him and obvious lack of preparedness and professionalism. If a fighter can not-will not make weight...move up. God knows we have enough divisions already.

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