The Gun Issue: even Lyle would agree with this!

[Beanz]

Even Lyle would agree with this ?

How can you seriously dress up the exact argument that Lyle would use as something different or revolutionary, just to post the exact same brain washing rubbish the Government and conventional media use, but from the other end of the spectrum ?

HA! what a pussy Alex is.

"Whoa..whoa..you just rammed into me..that's like assault...why did you touch me ?...I just don't want anybody to touch me..you are not going to touch me are you sir?"

Picking on an old man and woman whose child was killed, and then playing the victim himself. Comparing Cars and Baths to Guns is pathetic, the main purpose of baths and Guns is not to deter tyranny or protect yourself or family, let alone kill and maim people . And then the HD firearms. com advert at the end what a gullible bunch of fucking mugs Alex must think we all are, if he thinks that strengthens his argument.

"Old Liberal Fool ?"

Thatsounds like the language of defeat from an incredibly cowardly fat man barging into some doddery old codger. If owning a firearm is your only measure of enjoying freedom and liberty then you are deluded. You can subscribe to Alex's ludicrous idea that the rest of the world has lost it and America is simultaneously both the only bastion of hope and yet also damned to be run by reptiles (along with Switzerland) and everywhere else would love to be like you, but you would be wrong.

We don't care about your right to own guns. If that is part of your way of life and something you can explain in a reasonable way, whilst people may not want to exercise the same right in other countries, we can understand and accept that as being important to you.

Using a shit argument and having a incoherent, shouty, bumbling moron as your spokesman is not really strengthening your case much tho .

It could be just a cultural difference there mate for you. In America you are not allowed to bump into people or lay one finger on them--- it is considered assault by every single state in the Union. And also Jones was making a sarcastic point about that simply because those people are so championing the protection of people but did not give a rats ass about civil rights by bumping into him rudely and putting a finger on him in a confrontational way. We in America are very conscious of that bumping into people and putting a hand on people that is a very conscious thing here it is grounds for a lawsuit as per assault.

You are probably right and the same law suit culture is finding it's way over here. It's bloody daft. If someone bumps into you it should in no way be considered an assault. You should be able to be offended or find it rude or even offer a "fuck you sunshine" but pretending it's the same as a good old fashioned smack in the mouth is stoopid.

[brocktonblockbust]

americans are hyperacutely sensitive/neurotically touchy about their space around them. placing your hand on someone who is not your friend----and even moreso on someone who you are vehemntly arguing with-----can result in a) broken bones and b) a lawsuit and c) a counter lawsuit

we all know this here, it is ingrained in us, so when Jones said that, it was totally tongue-in-cheek (even though in reality he DID NOT appreciate it at ALL) to poke fun at the other person who in their enthusiasm to confront JOnes, bumped into him and then touched him as well.

[greynotsoold]

Yeah, you don't go putting your hands on people unless you want sex or violence

[Andre]

I can't believe the heat I get here for just saying "No, this is a specific right and we're keeping it as is".


Let me attempt to make it EASIER for all the lefties out there.....Let's say that Donald Trump is President in 2016....your views on guns would be? A) Yes I want them to protect my home and family from a dangerous leader or B ) What is the worst Trump could do? Sure I'll freely give up my rights


No leader is just going to come out and say, "Oh Hi everyone, I am a dictatorial tyrant and it'll be my pleasure to destroy everything you know and love"......ergo my stance is 100% rock solid, I don't care about school shootings don't care about terrorist attacks, don't care about gun accidents....I keep my guns safe, I protect them, they protect me...other peoples' mistakes aren't things I should have to pay for.

No heat from me If I lived where you do I would be armed to the teeth not for hunting but for protection from three different groups that could repress and stand over you at any time they choose to.(As if the main one isnt already).

[Master]

Folks in England don't or won't understand

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Now, now Lyle, don't generalise. That's what you rail against your opponents for doing in this argument!

I live in England at the moment. Most people living near me have guns, albeit not ones with rifled barrels.

If we weren't banned from having proper guns, I would most certainly have a wide selection of them!

Well I'm sorry. I hope you eventually do get to own as many guns as you like....though I doubt your government will allow it

So what are young saying @X They have black powder muskets

Yes and they catch butterfly, do moriss dancing and drink tea in the afternoon.

[X]

Folks in England don't or won't understand

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Now, now Lyle, don't generalise. That's what you rail against your opponents for doing in this argument!

I live in England at the moment. Most people living near me have guns, albeit not ones with rifled barrels.

If we weren't banned from having proper guns, I would most certainly have a wide selection of them!

Well I'm sorry. I hope you eventually do get to own as many guns as you like....though I doubt your government will allow it

So what are young saying @X They have black powder muskets

Nah, shotguns everywhere here.

[Dia bando]

Folks in England don't or won't understand

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Now, now Lyle, don't generalise. That's what you rail against your opponents for doing in this argument!

I live in England at the moment. Most people living near me have guns, albeit not ones with rifled barrels.

If we weren't banned from having proper guns, I would most certainly have a wide selection of them!

Well I'm sorry. I hope you eventually do get to own as many guns as you like....though I doubt your government will allow it

So what are young saying @X They have black powder muskets

Yes and they catch butterfly, do moriss dancing and drink tea in the afternoon.

What wrong with Morris dancing, hes a pretty good dancer is Morris.

[El Kabong]

The Latest: Police say woman intentionally drove into crowd


.....but you know GUNS are the REAL threat

[TitoFan]

Cars are next on the list....

[El Kabong]

Cars are next on the list....

They'll kill us all in the end....I mean that's why you have to get on the Global Warming bandwagon.

[pacfan]

American folks should forget this gun control thing cuz it ain't gonna happen. It'll just be another shooting waiting to happen and a little sobbing and then on to the next shooting. It took a martial law here to get rid of guns in the Philippines where they inherited the love for guns from the American colonizers. But when they kicked out the dictator, the guns came back and now they are killing each other again like the old times. And everybody knows thing like martial law will never happen in the U.S of A... so on with the party, babes...

[El Kabong]

American folks should forget this gun control thing cuz it ain't gonna happen. It'll just be another shooting waiting to happen and a little sobbing and then on to the next shooting. It took a martial law here to get rid of guns in the Philippines where they inherited the love for guns from the American colonizers. But when they kicked out the dictator, the guns came back and now they are killing each other again like the old times. And everybody knows thing like martial law will never happen in the U.S of A... so on with the party, babes...

The government in the United States will not disarm the populace.....because they know that the people won't fucking have it and the Armed Forces won't carry out such a Draconian plan.


As for your average everyday shooting in America perhaps this could help: 2 parent households, focus on hard work and valuing education, and an end to the war on drugs which is the root cause of a lot of gangland violence.

[pacfan]

American folks should forget this gun control thing cuz it ain't gonna happen. It'll just be another shooting waiting to happen and a little sobbing and then on to the next shooting. It took a martial law here to get rid of guns in the Philippines where they inherited the love for guns from the American colonizers. But when they kicked out the dictator, the guns came back and now they are killing each other again like the old times. And everybody knows thing like martial law will never happen in the U.S of A... so on with the party, babes...

The government in the United States will not disarm the populace.....because they know that the people won't fucking have it and the Armed Forces won't carry out such a Draconian plan.


As for your average everyday shooting in America perhaps this could help: 2 parent households, focus on hard work and valuing education, and an end to the war on drugs which is the root cause of a lot of gangland violence.

Yup, that's exactly what I'm trying to tell the anti-gunners, just forget it, it won't happen. The only way there will be a gun control is when - excuse me a bit here - some nut case fella with a full-auto gun goes berserk in the Capitol building and shoot as many politicians he can. Politicians will act when they get hurt...

[El Kabong]

American folks should forget this gun control thing cuz it ain't gonna happen. It'll just be another shooting waiting to happen and a little sobbing and then on to the next shooting. It took a martial law here to get rid of guns in the Philippines where they inherited the love for guns from the American colonizers. But when they kicked out the dictator, the guns came back and now they are killing each other again like the old times. And everybody knows thing like martial law will never happen in the U.S of A... so on with the party, babes...

The government in the United States will not disarm the populace.....because they know that the people won't fucking have it and the Armed Forces won't carry out such a Draconian plan.


As for your average everyday shooting in America perhaps this could help: 2 parent households, focus on hard work and valuing education, and an end to the war on drugs which is the root cause of a lot of gangland violence.

Yup, that's exactly what I'm trying to tell the anti-gunners, just forget it, it won't happen. The only way there will be a gun control is when - excuse me a bit here - some nut case fella with a full-auto gun goes berserk in the Capitol building and shoot as many politicians he can. Politicians will act when they get hurt...

Do you know what it takes to obtain a weapon like the one you described?

[pacfan]

American folks should forget this gun control thing cuz it ain't gonna happen. It'll just be another shooting waiting to happen and a little sobbing and then on to the next shooting. It took a martial law here to get rid of guns in the Philippines where they inherited the love for guns from the American colonizers. But when they kicked out the dictator, the guns came back and now they are killing each other again like the old times. And everybody knows thing like martial law will never happen in the U.S of A... so on with the party, babes...

The government in the United States will not disarm the populace.....because they know that the people won't fucking have it and the Armed Forces won't carry out such a Draconian plan.


As for your average everyday shooting in America perhaps this could help: 2 parent households, focus on hard work and valuing education, and an end to the war on drugs which is the root cause of a lot of gangland violence.

Yup, that's exactly what I'm trying to tell the anti-gunners, just forget it, it won't happen. The only way there will be a gun control is when - excuse me a bit here - some nut case fella with a full-auto gun goes berserk in the Capitol building and shoot as many politicians he can. Politicians will act when they get hurt...

Do you know what it takes to obtain a weapon like the one you described?

No I don't but by the tone of your question, I can guess. That was just a bit of hyperbole to get my point across. BTW, it's not that hard to convert a semi into full-auto and it doesn't have to be an assault type rifle. Just ask your gunsmith and I bet he can show you how. I've seen some crude craftsmen here converting even a handgun into full-auto...