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    Default Re: Sparring a hooker

    I know precise;ly what you mean mate.
    But I don't think it's a bad idea to spar a feew Thai fighters. I myself spar quite a few mma guys and if anything it really helps me as they are predominantly big hitters (if slightly slower and less technical)

    It certainly benefits them by sparring a boxer, so perhaps suggest that to a couple of them.
    One of my best mates ius a Southpaw, what can I say, come every competition, I nearly prefer to see Southpaws coming now!
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    I LOVE fighting southpaws....I like throwing hooks and right crosses and they nearly always land. Left hook to the body, drops the lead hand and HELLO right cross! You can also land a right hook on them as an orthodox fighter....one of my hardest punches but it's seldom used.

    Taller fighters are also good to fight as well as shorter ones.


    The more styles you spar against, the more comfortable you get in the ring vs anyone you will fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I LOVE fighting southpaws....I like throwing hooks and right crosses and they nearly always land. Left hook to the body, drops the lead hand and HELLO right cross! You can also land a right hook on them as an orthodox fighter....one of my hardest punches but it's seldom used.

    Taller fighters are also good to fight as well as shorter ones.


    The more styles you spar against, the more comfortable you get in the ring vs anyone you will fight.
    The left hook to the body against a southpaw is a little difficult unless you stand straight on.
    However as your American I suppose you don't have the same acute angle that the European style does. With the European conventional stance it's quite easy for a left hook to the body to stray around a soputhpaws back and be deeded an intentional foul or kidney blow.
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    It might be a foul but it doesn't LOOK like a foul which is why you're able to land it....I don't aim for the kidneys or anything because that would be wrong but right above or slightly behind the hip bone. If you're afraid of fouling just hit them on the arm or right under the arm

    They also have a tough time seeing the left hook coming if you distract them with the right cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    It might be a foul but it doesn't LOOK like a foul which is why you're able to land it....I don't aim for the kidneys or anything because that would be wrong but right above or slightly behind the hip bone. If you're afraid of fouling just hit them on the arm or right under the arm

    They also have a tough time seeing the left hook coming if you distract them with the right cross.
    Thats a nice strategy in free sparring or pro-style fights, but when I'm in the amateur ring all eye's are on your hands and it's easiuly noticed, I've got my fair share of warnings for it to be honest.
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    Default Re: Sparring a hooker

    It's a bit of a bum deal that really, while kidney punching is rightly deemed illegal, it shouldn't be deemed your fault if your opponent presents them in your natural hooking line, it's not as if you're looping them searching for the illegal contact.
    Last edited by Bomp; 03-05-2008 at 02:41 PM. Reason: left word out

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    I guess it's just one more natural advantage enjoyed by the Southpaw.
    A fighter who's got a looping right hok of his own will manage a citeoig easily enough.
    The thing is the right hook isn't taught and for good reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post

    4) Left Hook guys are often sloppy with the left hook, when he throws it, watch his right hand, if it drops make him regret it.
    I'm trying to picture how to do this without still being there to get hit by the hook. care to elaborate?

    I'm sure it's obvious to most people on here but my brain is just not working at the moment so maybe you'll have pity on me hitmandonny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharla View Post
    I'm trying to picture how to do this without still being there to get hit by the hook. care to elaborate?

    I'm sure it's obvious to most people on here but my brain is just not working at the moment so maybe you'll have pity on me hitmandonny!
    No prob, what I do is nail my lead foot in place in a location that would accomodate an attack, I would then step back and allow his left hook to miss me and then presuming his shoulder drops and his right hand is out of position, come back with a hook and straight of your own.

    Alternatively, and I've only started employing this recently, I block the left hook on the upraised elbow and forearm and come back with my hook. Takes timing, but it's highly effective.
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    Thanks hitmandonny - I understand now! Very clever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    No prob, what I do is nail my lead foot in place in a location that would accomodate an attack, I would then step back and allow his left hook to miss me and then presuming his shoulder drops and his right hand is out of position, come back with a hook and straight of your own.

    Alternatively, and I've only started employing this recently, I block the left hook on the upraised elbow and forearm and come back with my hook. Takes timing, but it's highly effective.
    Do you pull back from the hook or duck it? As I recall, you are a tall, lanking fighter. On the other hand, I am not and I fight out of a bit of a crouch - ducking hooks or blocking is my usual method. Or do you back out with your feet to make the miss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Do you pull back from the hook or duck it? As I recall, you are a tall, lanking fighter. On the other hand, I am not and I fight out of a bit of a crouch - ducking hooks or blocking is my usual method. Or do you back out with your feet to make the miss?
    I just step back and bring the whole body. The front foot designates where my next attack will be launched from so I let that remain. I draw back my rear foot, carrying my body out of range and then step with the right for a counter, as the left is already set.

    I'm tall at 71, but not lanky, pretty much the same build as rjj and G man at Middleweight, tall but not freakishly and wider shoulders than the rest of me LoL
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    If you are short you can use the same methods Mike Tyson and Joe Frazier(albeit Joe wasn't short by anymeans) used.


    Mike Tyson bobbed and weaved moving side to side but also up and down...he used his shifting weight to counter with more power than most fighters. That's what I try to do in sparring I try to use my weight behind my counter shots and I try to set that up through head movement and footwork.

    Joe Frazier just bobbed up and down...perfect for having the hook sail over your head but it makes you a sucker for the right cross or uppercut.



    But yeah stepping back is good but the other fighter can just use a feint and BANG you're flat on your ass. That is why I (as a user of the left hook myself) love to feint the right cross and leap in with a left hook.....the thing about feinting is you HAVE to sell it

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    Default Re: Sparring a hooker

    Lyle I never knew you were a boxer. I thought you were just an avid fan with a strong political take!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Milash View Post
    Lyle I never knew you were a boxer. I thought you were just an avid fan with a strong political take!
    ....I dabble....my first sparring session was vs Tillman78 oddly enough. He's preparing to go pro...or so he keeps telling me he's going to.

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