Not The Same Old excuse Again........

[Althugz]

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If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........

Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.

It seems that Cotto fans in here have a lot more confidence in their man than floyds fans do.
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Oh no don't get me wrong i'm supremely confident that Floyd whoops Cotto every day of the week and twice on a Sunday but that doesn't stop me being dissapointed that the fight hasn't happened yet. I say yet because just like Mar said..i'm sure it will happen. Once Cotto is worth enough, and he will be soon, then it's on.
My only concern is that Floyd waits too long and shifts the balance of the fight into Cotto's favour. Floyd's not exactly a spring chicken and he's a fighter who relies heavily on reflexes. They'll be the first thing to go..That's my only concern. Otherwise I forsee a victory for PBF.

[roheblius]

I mostly agree. Floyd is at his earning peak. Why not go with DLH again for the most money possible? He has to raise his star power so that when he fights guys who might not be on his level from a box office standpoint, they'll be coming after him, making it more compelling. It's just smart business no matter how much fans don't want to see him and DLH again.

I think the dynamics of their second fight make it interesting or at least, the build up interesting.

[Bx730NY]

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Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.

It seems that Cotto fans in here have a lot more confidence in their man than floyds fans do.

Oh no don't get me wrong i'm supremely confident that Floyd whoops Cotto every day of the week and twice on a Sunday but that doesn't stop me being dissapointed that the fight hasn't happened yet. I say yet because just like Mar said..i'm sure it will happen. Once Cotto is worth enough, and he will be soon, then it's on.
My only concern is that Floyd waits too long and shifts the balance of the fight into Cotto's favour. Floyd's not exactly a spring chicken and he's a fighter who relies heavily on reflexes. They'll be the first thing to go..That's my only concern. Otherwise I forsee a victory for PBF.

I respect your opinion if you feel floyd can beat Cotto but I feel exactly the same as you only reversing the fighters names.

Cotto has been a beast at WW and floyd has been ducking all the top names. You just can't continue to cal yourself the best and do what he does. The fight is THE fight in boxing right now.

If you can tell me of a bigger fight than that then you are truly a boxing god.

No other fight is as significant, important or puts two fighters that good and in their primes.

I've been watching boxing a long time and I can tell you that this is not something that comes along too often when you have an opportunity to see such a good matchup and neither guy has any built in excuses like age, weight etc....

This has to happen now before it becomes insignificant.

[Unknowndonor]

I'd like to tape Floyd's mouth shut sometimes, but he is the best right now. And, is it just me, or does some of the Cotto fans here seem to be more of Floyd haters than true Cotto fans? Alot seem to not even recognize that Cotto is fighting Tony, they are just quick to jump at someone who might have a chance of beating Floyd, and they think that person is Cotto, and people want to talk about Floyd fans. I'd like to choke Floyd for not taking this fight yet, regardless of what he has done, or his earnings, I'm sick of hearing it. For the record, I wouldn't pass up the chance for the money against Oscar, but then again, I haven't already earned what Floyd has earned. I like both fighters, and I'm all for the fight, but Cotto's 0, will go, if it hasn't already.

[luvfightgame]

Before PBF fought and beat DLH his haters said if he beat oscar he'd porven himself.

Then they said if he beat Hatton he'd have proven himself.

Now its Cotto.

If he beats Cotto they will say he hasnt proved himself til he wins a 160 title or something.

I think most knew that once Judah fell to Cotto that that was the fight to be made and I would think the majority of fans would have rather seen Cotto-Mayweather then Hatton - Mayweather. Not that Hatton - Mayweather was a bad fight. But he has to fight Cotto imo it would be a fight unlike any he's ever had where he could completely silence every one of his critics. If he were to win it would be his best win imo. That's why so many want this fight because it would be another truly great fighter in his prime, can't get better then that.

Until Mayweather wins and then The excuses are gonna come and then people are gonna talk about what Mayweather didn't do, then its gonna turn into he ducked and dodged margarito and then people are gonna find another opponent for him to fight.

Oscar was supposed to silence the critics, Hatton was supposed to silence the critics. It didn't. People just want Mayweather to lose so they can reach their pleasuring point and scream "HAH SEE HE'S OVERRATED!!! A SO-AND-SO COMPARE YOURSELF TO ROBINSON HAH YOU GOT YOUR ASS BEAT!"

Nobody will be happy with Mayweather till he loses.

Or until he shuts up. His mouth ruins it for me. I don't mind trash talking, but he is ridiculous. He really has performed, made good decisions in bad situations (Judah) but he ruins it when he talks himself up. If he were humble everyone would be calling him an atg.... instead he keeps saying it himself..

[ElTerribleMorales]

ok not taking away anything from Floyd (cause IMO Oscar isn't shot by no means), but how can some people call DLH a shot fighter now, and yet use him to boost Mayweather into this mythical-like figure, Cotto IMO is Mayweather's Frazier, his big moment, a win against him and everything Cotto represents, will leave Mayweather as a p4p top 5 of all times without a doubt

[HattonTheHammer]

Ive gotta say having no real affiliation with either fighter and having seen both fight countless times id strongly lean towards a cotto points win if they ever met.

PBF is great at what he does, probably one of the greatest exponents of the counter punch of all time, cotto on the other hand is one of the smartest fighters in boxing and more often than not knows when to counter, when to jab etc.

He hasnt gotten that from being supremely intelligent to every other fighter, its just all come with experience and to miguel the ring is his home.

I just could not for the life of me see how floyd would either knock cotto out or throw enough punches to take a points win.

[Althugz]

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The fight is THE fight in boxing right now.

If you can tell me of a bigger fight than that then you are truly a boxing god.

No other fight is as significant, important or puts two fighters that good and in their primes.

I've been watching boxing a long time and I can tell you that this is not something that comes along too often when you have an opportunity to see such a good matchup and neither guy has any built in excuses like age, weight etc....

This has to happen now before it becomes insignificant.

I agree with you completely there.

[p4pking]

I didn't even read the article, but Im guessing the "EXCUSE" is that Cotto isn't the highest payday out there for him. Well until they accept the hardcore boxing fan's approval as down payement on a new Bentley, It's not an excuse at all, and this entire thread is pointless and stupid. Ive said many times that I would far rather see Floyd fight Cotto than Oscar again or anyone else, and I don't know any real boxing fan who thinks differently. The problem is I'm not stupid and delluded enough to actually expect a fighter to accept far less money for an equal or greater risk, just because it will make me happy. Especially when I realize that therre are still far more people willing to shell out THEIR money to see Floyd fight Oscar than Cotto. It's just beyond pathetic that people still need clarification as to why this fight isn't happening yet.

[Rican]

de la Hoya and Golden Boy are ruining boxing for boxing fans. It is almost like they have a financial monopoly on boxing which is fine, but when you put together low risk/high reward fights, the public loses out, not only in the pocketbook, but in terms of interest/excitement.

[Tito BHB]

I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?

then he'll be ducking sergio mora!

loll.. But yeah i agree with you.. i think all the playing around is just like the hatton fight.. he could have fought hatton years before he did.. but he waited and waited and hatton started bringing all his fans over and floyd had dollar bills in his eyes..

same with cotto.. i think he teases.. he makes some good money against oscar and cotto keeps undefeated and making a bigger legacy.. then when you loose hope that floyd will fight him.. Floyd will take the fight..

plus miguel is fighting like.. 3 times a year.. and while floyd might only fight oscar for the rest of the year cotto i bet fights another big name after tony and maybe gets in another fight in '09 before maybe floyd mid year..
Who knows who it might be..

It might go some thing like margarito, and maybe a sugar shane rematch or a quintana rematch just for belts sake.. Just big name fights keeping him busy racking up belts while floyd plays round.. Maybe he'll destroy berto.. its all good buildup.

[Canvasback]

Floyd's legacy (whatever that is) will not be complete until he fights and beats Cotto.

[ElTerribleMorales]

de la Hoya and Golden Boy are ruining boxing for boxing fans. It is almost like they have a financial monopoly on boxing which is fine, but when you put together low risk/high reward fights, the public loses out, not only in the pocketbook, but in terms of interest/excitement.

i disagree completely, i think Golden Boy Promotions has only tried to make the best fights possible as of late, Pacquiao/Marquez II is a big showing of this, as well as Cotto/Mosley and a bunch of other fights put together with talent from other big promotion companies (especially Top Rank)

[amat]

My problem with Golden Boy is...well I have a few. And that sucks because I was so high on Golden Boy and really thought they were going to revolutionize boxing. However, it looks like they have become just another promotion company which sucks.

For one, he hasn't done those things he said he would do in the leadup to Barrera-Juarez II in making a boxing summit, pushing for a national commission and all that stuff to advance the sport.

He hasn't done enough developing of his prospects. Barely any shows off TV and the only time his prospects get a chance to fight is on the undercards of big events. Those aren't often enough.

And I really am uneasy about his acquisition of The Ring, just seems like a conflict of interest.

[Spicoli]

I didn't even read the article, but Im guessing the "EXCUSE" is that Cotto isn't the highest payday out there for him. Well until they accept the hardcore boxing fan's approval as down payement on a new Bentley, It's not an excuse at all, and this entire thread is pointless and stupid. Ive said many times that I would far rather see Floyd fight Cotto than Oscar again or anyone else, and I don't know any real boxing fan who thinks differently. The problem is I'm not stupid and delluded enough to actually expect a fighter to accept far less money for an equal or greater risk, just because it will make me happy. Especially when I realize that therre are still far more people willing to shell out THEIR money to see Floyd fight Oscar than Cotto. It's just beyond pathetic that people still need clarification as to why this fight isn't happening yet.

Decent point.Oh Its fully understood how Mayweather views the Boxing world I believe. I think deep down The majority of Fans understand that Mayweather is indeed all about the Money and doing what he deems most benificial for himself....Financially and Physically....as opposed to giving the fans what they want .Its natural for Fight fans to clammer for two of the highest profile and most talented Fighters in a historically star studded Division,welters, to face off asap.

I will encourage people to not over look Cotto/Margarito as THE Welterweight battle of Note on deck....Its actually signed!Many,Many fans are sleeping and dismissing Tony as a one deminsional, face first brick layer but soon the Cotto VS. Mayweather Talk could be mute Is there any doubt that 'If' Margarito pulls it off and beats Cotto solidly that Mayweather will say "Ya see,Cotto was not ready/or he was overrated". Will he Agree to fight Margarito or fall back on the very same tired pimp-esq mantra "No one knows Margarito and He wont make Me bank".Let the Diva's have there rematch.....I want THIS fight. With the winner "earning" the right to fight King Midas Mayweather.