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    Boxing News: Mayweather Jr. Defends Choice of De La Hoya Over Cotto

    This article tells you all you need to know about floyd. I know the floyd lovers are gonna try to cover his ass again but this tells you all you need to know about the guys willingness to take the meaningful fights and his lack of respect for fighters of the past.

    How can he compare himself to a guy like Ray Robinson saying things like "Well he wasn't undefeated" but the guy wasn't ducking the challenging fighters in their primes so he doesn't even stack up against guys like SRR.

    His PPV numbers were not good until he fought DLH and Hatton so I'm not sure what he and ellerbe are talking about either. That's the way they try to fool the fans by fighting the same guys and making it seem like it's floyd that's the draw and the money guy.

    These guys are delusional for real.
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    He is becoming more and more of a complete tool. Check out this quote:

    “No disrespect to Sugar Ray Robinson,” Mayweather told Rotella. "But was he undefeated? Did he win six titles in five weight classes? I’ll be honest, boxing comes so easy to me I don’t even think about it. I’m here to entertain. . . . Work is work. I’m gonna make a lot of money, but this is also a learning stage of my life. I’m learning different ways to promote. Other fighters have to fight. I don’t have to fight. I already went through that stage when I fought 90 fights for free [amateur ranks]. I already proved it to myself. Once you reach pound for pound, you already proved everything.”

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    ......."Im here to entertain".....join the circus...carnival barker.He could not carry Robinsons spit bucket.He is officially Diva # 2

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    What Ellerbe said makes perfect sense (which is usually rare)...but then Floyd opened his mouth and fucked it up. I hate when he compares himself to Sugar Ray Robinson and this stuff about 5 different weight classes. Didn't anyone tell him that some of those weight classes he won titles at didn't exist back in the day?
    I can understand completely what they're saying about the Cotto fight not making 'business sense' and it being very high risk for little reward but I just wish he'd say fuck the money for one last fight and just silence all his critics by taking out Cotto.

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    Its a joke already. This guy has no respect for the sport that made him anymore.
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    I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
    What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
    What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?
    If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........
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    Floyd will fight Cotto when Cotto becomes as big a star as he can be, after the Margarito fight and probably a couple more. If Cotto keeps winning then Floyd-Cotto becomes a far bigger commercial proposition in a year or so than it is now. Floyd only wants fights that are massive earners for him so that's why he's saying the things he's saying about DLH and why he'll do the same for a Hatton rematch. After those two massive money fights Floyd will fight and beat Cotto.

    Here's a good article about him I just bumped into :

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/sp...yt&oref=slogin

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    What? Cotto need to be defeat for say that he is a real good Star now ?
    I heard that times ago , probably when Cotto try to finish his career , maybe would say that he was real great Star...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
    What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?
    If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........
    Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

    But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.
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    Before PBF fought and beat DLH his haters said if he beat oscar he'd porven himself.

    Then they said if he beat Hatton he'd have proven himself.

    Now its Cotto.

    If he beats Cotto they will say he hasnt proved himself til he wins a 160 title or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
    What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?
    If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........
    Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

    But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.
    Ok -

    Can he ever be as great as he thinks he is? Can he ever be as great as he says he is?It's one thing to go around proclaiming you're the best fighter of all time, but, unfortunately, that's a claim that requires proof. His resume is very solid, and I don't dispute the fact that he is one of the best boxers around today.

    But to mention yourself in the same breath as Robinson, you first need to fight all legitimate contenders. We all know Mayweather has played the matchmaking game very well. And before you accuse me of accusing Floyd of ducking so and so, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that to live up to the hype, he needs to fight Cotto. He needs to fight Margarito. He needs to fight the legitimate contenders at each of these weight classes he's bragging about winning titles in, instead of picking and choosing opposition. Fight all of them, at least the legitimate contenders.

    Would he win all these fights? Very possibly - it's certainly not an unbelievable proposition. But until he actually backs up his boasting, he's never going to be the greatest of all time, for me personally. He'll be just another outstanding boxer who will always have a lot of what ifs following him around.

    What if Floyd actually lived up to his potential, instead of running his mouth and fighting for money instead of legacy?

    Then he might be able to make a convincing case to being the best fighter ever. For now - not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
    What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?
    If he did beat Cotto then he can ride off into the sunset having answered the BIG question. Until then...........
    Tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered. Because all the "can he" "will he's" that people have used against him he has already proven he can and will. Its the fans that refuse to accept it.

    But feel free to tell me what question Mayweather hasn't already answered.
    I just don't understand SOME of floyds fans in here. Did you guys just fall in love with what he says or what?

    As a fan Cotto, I would be hurt, hold on let me correct myself, I would be crushed if he lost a fight. That being said, I don't want him to avoid fighting guys that can conceivably beat him. That's the mark or greatness right there: Taking On All The Top Challenges

    It seems that Cotto fans in here have a lot more confidence in their man than floyds fans do.

    Believe me, If floyd didn't realize that he's cheating the sport (especially his own fans) he and his team wouldn't keep explaining themselves about why they're not fighting the top guys of TODAY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
    What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?
    He would get my respect and props.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    I acctually think mayweather will fight him imo, all the hype is building and building and Cotto`s name is building aswell, but for all we know Cotto could get beat. I would put money on him fighting the winner eventually.
    What if he did fight beat Cotto though then what lol ?
    then he'll be ducking sergio mora!

    loll.. But yeah i agree with you.. i think all the playing around is just like the hatton fight.. he could have fought hatton years before he did.. but he waited and waited and hatton started bringing all his fans over and floyd had dollar bills in his eyes..

    same with cotto.. i think he teases.. he makes some good money against oscar and cotto keeps undefeated and making a bigger legacy.. then when you loose hope that floyd will fight him.. Floyd will take the fight..

    plus miguel is fighting like.. 3 times a year.. and while floyd might only fight oscar for the rest of the year cotto i bet fights another big name after tony and maybe gets in another fight in '09 before maybe floyd mid year..
    Who knows who it might be..

    It might go some thing like margarito, and maybe a sugar shane rematch or a quintana rematch just for belts sake.. Just big name fights keeping him busy racking up belts while floyd plays round.. Maybe he'll destroy berto.. its all good buildup.
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