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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    Tommy Hearns genuinely sacred me. I felt sorry for Andries when he walked into the ring, same with Roldan.
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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    There have been some truly ferocious fighters over the years. They are a genre all of their own (I wouldn't put Hagler in there, though. Hagler is an all time great but he could box and think in the ring and would alter his style accordingly. He was ferocious against Hearns but that was because he chose to be rather than because it was his prime nature)

    I agree with people like Dempsey, Tyson, Duran, Benn and people like that .... Louis was a machine rather than a ferocious fighter. 'Ferocious' - for me anyway - is defined by a fighter who appears to enjoy hurting his opponent. To the layman amongst us ..... Clubber Lan is ferocous, Apollo Creed, Rocky Balboa, Ivan Drago and Tommy Gunn are not, although they may well be better fighters

    Honourable mention must go to Stanley Ketchell, the Michigan Assassin who bit, clawed and hammered his opponents into the canvas
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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    Top 3 In this order!

    Foreman
    Liston
    Tyson

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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Louis was scary becuase he was so deadpanned. Just went out there and slaughtered the opposition and then calmly walked back to his corner. Very scary to watc. Almost like he was a killer robot. LaMotta was ferocious.
    Joe Louis was told not to smile and gloat over the opponent as it would remind the white folk of Jack Johnson.
    i honestly didnt know that about louis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavlikfan View Post
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    Louis was scary becuase he was so deadpanned. Just went out there and slaughtered the opposition and then calmly walked back to his corner. Very scary to watc. Almost like he was a killer robot. LaMotta was ferocious.
    Joe Louis was told not to smile and gloat over the opponent as it would remind the white folk of Jack Johnson.
    i honestly didnt know that about louis.
    Yes indeed -he was also told never to have his photo taken with a white woman, as if it appeared in any newspaper it would remind people of Johnson.

    Jack's impact was not just on sport and it was still reverberating in 1930's America.
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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    its a shame that a true legend like joe louis wasnt treated better when he was with us. great fighter and a great man.

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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    Great call 3rdMan...

    I'd go with Liston, Briscoe, Tyson & Duran.

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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Great call 3rdMan...

    I'd go with Liston, Briscoe, Tyson & Duran.
    Benny Briscoe! Of course, a mean man in the ring, anyone who fought Briscoe was in for a tough night and if you beat him you had to be really, really good. In any other era he would have been regarded as a truly great Middleweight champion but he ran into Monzon, Valdez and Hagler!

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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Great call 3rdMan...

    I'd go with Liston, Briscoe, Tyson & Duran.
    Benny Briscoe! Of course, a mean man in the ring, anyone who fought Briscoe was in for a tough night and if you beat him you had to be really, really good. In any other era he would have been regarded as a truly great Middleweight champion but he ran into Monzon, Valdez and Hagler!
    I agree Briscoe was a bad man.. Stopped only once in his career fought the best fighters around.


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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Great call 3rdMan...

    I'd go with Liston, Briscoe, Tyson & Duran.
    Benny Briscoe! Of course, a mean man in the ring, anyone who fought Briscoe was in for a tough night and if you beat him you had to be really, really good. In any other era he would have been regarded as a truly great Middleweight champion but he ran into Monzon, Valdez and Hagler!
    I agree Briscoe was a bad man.. Stopped only once in his career fought the best fighters around.
    I agree, and this saved me from having to really think it over myself :P. Note that all four of these men could well have been psychopaths, and one of them, Tyson, is clearly one.

    Jack Johnson came to mind immediately for me, as the man took absolute delight in hurting those foolish enough to get in the ring with him, but most of that I believe was a result of the era he lived in - justifiably so. Liston was carved of the same stone and certainly belongs on this list - he absolutely enjoyed beating a man down. Duran was one of the meanest men to ever strap on the gloves and was born with the guns to compliment that mean streak. Briscoe didn't get the name "Bad" Bennie Briscoe for nothin and was one of the most feared men of his era. I believe he's on Ring's top 100 punchers of all time.

    Great picks!

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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    Jeff Fenech ,no slouch in the ferocious department.

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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    I'm not sure Johnson took delight in hurting his opponents. He often carried opponents, which is not the usual activity of someone who really enjoys beating them up,...... Johnson liked to humiliate certain opponents, which is different from hurting them - and he only really did this to Burns and Jeffries. He certainly didn't try any funny stuff with Joe Jeanette for example.

    As he could seemingly pick and choose which people to humiliate, and because he carried his opponents, I would not classify his as 'ferocious'. He could be, he was a great grreat fighter, but he was too canny to be hell bent on destriction while in the ring.
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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    It doesnt seem that way watching his fights now,but Id put Ali in to the mix,the way he'd just decide he was bored with you,and end your night,because there is a ferociousness that allows you to toy with someone like that. Because you know he could have ended it whenever he pleased.
    Ann Wolfe definitely has to be in the mix as well,come to think of it so does Valerie Mahfood,on the womans side of it,I dont think either of them have ever understood the word reverse.
    Manfreddy has to be in there as well,you allways knew were Angel was going to be,right in front of you throwing punches,Mancini was like that too.

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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    Sonny LIston.

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    Default Re: who was the most ferocious?

    Well i dont know if Evander Holyfeild would be called ferocious but i tell you what he could be scary at times because man with no fear is a scary thing i mean never seen Holyfeild worried in the ring always the same look on his face even if you kicking the crap out of him just jumps right back in your face alot of then time coming back to win.
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