Well I think at his absolute best Holyfield beats all the rest so.
Holyfield (4-0)
Lewis (3-1)
Tyson (2-2)
Bowe (1-3)
Wlad (0-4)
Sorry Wlad but I just don't see you beating any of the above at their best!
Well I think at his absolute best Holyfield beats all the rest so.
Holyfield (4-0)
Lewis (3-1)
Tyson (2-2)
Bowe (1-3)
Wlad (0-4)
Sorry Wlad but I just don't see you beating any of the above at their best!
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God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I'll say it again, God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I don't believe in magic, I don't believe in I-ching, I don't believe in bible, I don't believe in tarot, I don't believe in Hitler, I don't believe in Jesus, I don't believe in Kennedy, I don't believe in Buddha, I don't believe in mantra, I don't believe in Gita, I don't believe in yoga, I don't believe in kings, I don't believe in Elvis, I don't believe in Zimmerman, I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me!!
God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I'll say it again, God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I don't believe in magic, I don't believe in I-ching, I don't believe in bible, I don't believe in tarot, I don't believe in Hitler, I don't believe in Jesus, I don't believe in Kennedy, I don't believe in Buddha, I don't believe in mantra, I don't believe in Gita, I don't believe in yoga, I don't believe in kings, I don't believe in Elvis, I don't believe in Zimmerman, I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me!!
I just think he came up against somebody that was at their very peak and was far too big. P4P Holyfield may have won that fight, but Bowe's performance is one of the best and most complete I have seen in a Heavyweight world Title fight. Bowe never reproduced that form again though.
Bowe was overqweight, under prepared and had to deal with not knowing what had happend to his wife (Fan Man) in the 2nd fight, which Holyfiled just nicked imo.
Having said that Bowe did decide to kidnap his wife a few years later, so maybe he wasn't that fond of her anyway![]()
God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I'll say it again, God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I don't believe in magic, I don't believe in I-ching, I don't believe in bible, I don't believe in tarot, I don't believe in Hitler, I don't believe in Jesus, I don't believe in Kennedy, I don't believe in Buddha, I don't believe in mantra, I don't believe in Gita, I don't believe in yoga, I don't believe in kings, I don't believe in Elvis, I don't believe in Zimmerman, I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me!!
Lewis
Tyson
Holyfield
Bowe
Wlad
Riddick Bowe looked like complete fighter because Evander Holyfield, stood right infront of the much bigger man and was over-powered which played into Riddick Bowe's hand. Evander Holyfield was better in the rematch because he had much better tactics, sticking-moving and sometimes staying on the inside and countering.
Riddick Bowe even in his prime didn't do well against fighters with good jabs, that kept him on the outside. He was outboxed by a shot Tony Tubbs. And received a gift decision, and he was getting outboxed by Tyrell Biggs until Riddick Bowe caught up to Tyrell Biggs.
Speaking of Tony Tubbs, what a wasted talent he was. He could've been a fantastic champion. I think he went something like 250-10 as an amateur and was destined for great things
Alot of the 80's Heavyweights were talented mate, Greg Page was a bit like Muhammad Ali. And everyone thought he was the new Muhammad Ali, because he was from the same hometown, and he had the low hand style like Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali was even impressed by Greg Page when he see him fight.
Tony Tubbs was really good though, and he had very fast hands. And he's got to be borderline top 10 for the fastest handspeed ever at Heavyweight. But he was lazy in training, got overweight then drugs affected him.
Which is basically the story for most of the lost generation of Heavyweights in the 80s, he was pretty good in the Riddick Bowe fight, that night Riddick Bowe was taught a bit of boxing lesson IMO.
to Kyle.
apologies,ur right it was vitali and thats who i thought we were talking about as its generally accepted that he is the better of the siblings. And your right, he was marginally ahead but its not a 6 round fight, its a 12rounder. A finished Lewis gave him 60 stitches and stopped him, thats fact. just because he maybe won 3 outta 5 rounds dont mean diddly squat. if thats the case then marciano wouldnt have won a world title, Conn woulda beat louis etc etc.
Wlad would destroy all of them.
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