Carl Froch - Andre Dirrell

[Bomp]

Dirrell's explosiveness is overrated, I think his loud exhale deceives some people. He'll be able to overwhelm many fighters, but doesn't have the single punch power to really buzz someone and keep em honest. He's fast and has a lot of potential, but nowhere near a complete boxer, and seems to switch hit due to the fact that he hasn't got a right hand rather than as a tool to confuse oppoennts.

I find Froch hilarious, he's probably dreamed throughout his life of being some sort of all time great counterpuncher, but he's so slow he couldn't move out of the way of a fucking milk float. He has a solid chin and long reach, which means he'll be able to land his mildly above average power while he's still willing to take shots. IMO this fight will come down to how good Dirrell's chin is.

[OumaFan]

When I say explosiveness his speed, which really is top drawer, is partially what I mean, not just power. And I would say he can crack a bit, he can hurt people, not one punch them, but hurt them with one punch especially because his speed helps him catch guys with stuff they don't see coming.

He's got some issues though. Goes too wild offensively at times, throwing cartoon combinations which gasses him out a bit and I'm not sure he has the greatest chin. Also I think if you're a Froch fan you could take some confidence from the Oganov fight and the Hanshaw fight as at times he's looked a bit uncomfortable with pressure. Then again the Oganov fight especially I think he fought kind of like he thought the guy across from him was garbage, I would suspect he'd play it a bit more safe against Froch. And he really beat the shit out of Hanshaw after the start of the second round, worse so then Roy although I'm the last guy to overrate an old Roy.

[Violent Demise]

Froch should have more than enough in his armour to see off dirrell and i expect a comfortable points decision. Ive seen 4-5 dirrell fights so far and am not buying him for 1 minute. He`s the weakest of the 6 and fighting the 2nd best of the 6.

The same people on here that think dirrell will beat froch are the same type that believed lacys journey to britain to fight JC was merely a formality and a way to get him over to the european public.


froch by quite a considerable margin

As appose to the Brits who thought Hatton's pressure would overcome Mayweather's speed, right? Chances are Dirrell-Fraud will look more like Mayweather-Hatton than Calzaghe-Lacy

[Rantcatrat]

I commended Froch after beating Taylor. After the Pascal fight, I thought Pascal was underrated and Froch overrated. Then Froch beat Taylor and I had to give him a little credit. If he beats Dirrell it will be hard to deny that he is a top threat at 168.

[skel1983]

Froch should have more than enough in his armour to see off dirrell and i expect a comfortable points decision. Ive seen 4-5 dirrell fights so far and am not buying him for 1 minute. He`s the weakest of the 6 and fighting the 2nd best of the 6.

The same people on here that think dirrell will beat froch are the same type that believed lacys journey to britain to fight JC was merely a formality and a way to get him over to the european public.


froch by quite a considerable margin

As appose to the Brits who thought Hatton's pressure would overcome Mayweather's speed, right? Chances are Dirrell-Fraud will look more like Mayweather-Hatton than Calzaghe-Lacy

Disagree with that mate, the amount of brits on here who thought Hatton would win were no where near as much as the amount of Americans who fought Lacy would beat Calzaghe, if I had to guess id say the amount of Americans who thought Lacy would win id say 90%, amount of Brits who thought Hatton would beat Mayweather I think you would be hard to name 60% on here.

[HattonTheHammer]

Froch should have more than enough in his armour to see off dirrell and i expect a comfortable points decision. Ive seen 4-5 dirrell fights so far and am not buying him for 1 minute. He`s the weakest of the 6 and fighting the 2nd best of the 6.

The same people on here that think dirrell will beat froch are the same type that believed lacys journey to britain to fight JC was merely a formality and a way to get him over to the european public.


froch by quite a considerable margin

As appose to the Brits who thought Hatton's pressure would overcome Mayweather's speed, right? Chances are Dirrell-Fraud will look more like Mayweather-Hatton than Calzaghe-Lacy

who exactly said that??

i pretty much made a living out of telling everyone that would hear that floyd would win it on points.

once again please continue to make yourself look the dick you obviously are...................

[Violent Demise]

Froch should have more than enough in his armour to see off dirrell and i expect a comfortable points decision. Ive seen 4-5 dirrell fights so far and am not buying him for 1 minute. He`s the weakest of the 6 and fighting the 2nd best of the 6.

The same people on here that think dirrell will beat froch are the same type that believed lacys journey to britain to fight JC was merely a formality and a way to get him over to the european public.


froch by quite a considerable margin

As appose to the Brits who thought Hatton's pressure would overcome Mayweather's speed, right? Chances are Dirrell-Fraud will look more like Mayweather-Hatton than Calzaghe-Lacy

who exactly said that??

i pretty much made a living out of telling everyone that would hear that floyd would win it on points.

once again please continue to make yourself look the dick you obviously are...................

Oh there were several. Some just didn't come back.

And I'm sure all them idiots who made the trip across the pond really thought Hatton was going to lose, right?

[Tam Seddon]

Dont rise to it, VD knows that Carl is the man to beat at 168 and mark my words Dirrell isnt going to be the man to rise to that occasion.

[Kirkland Laing]

They're just about my exact thoughts on this fight.

Watching a few Dirrell fights recently he looks very impressive to me. I can't believe he's the 14/1 outsider in this thing.

His speed is going to give Froch murders. If Dirrell has the bottle for it he'll win. But equally it wont be a surprise if Froch drags him into the deep end and drowns him.

no doubt in my mind dirrell will look to be the aggressor from the word go and will have froch on the ropes on more than a few occasions.

But we`ve seen in the past how carl enjoys those types of slug fests as he is extremely good at not allowing himself to become to inveloped in what the other guy is doing and froch will no doubt pick away at dirrell every time he lunges in.

If the judges go on dirrells sheer athletisism alone it`ll be a tough call, if however it comes down to who landed the better shots and asserted themselves better froch will win hands down

Hmmm, why do you think he'll come out trying to come forward and back Froch up?

Andre Dirrell right?

He comes out pretty much every time moving and trying to box. He pretty much never comes out the aggressor trying to back his man up.

Against Victor Oganov he came out boxing and moving http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooMdGA1UimY
Against Anthony Hanshaw he came out boxing and moving http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYLcZ...eature=related
Against Derrick Findlay he came out boxing and moving http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlW-n...eature=related
Against Curtis Stevens he ran the whole fight.

He may throw a lot of punches but he doesn't come out the aggressor coming forward trying to back his man up. Froch is the obvious pressure guy here.

He's got a fast accurate jab. That's going to give Froch all sorts of problems. It's easy to say you're going to put pressure on somebody but when you're getting tattooed in the canister with a jab like that it's easier said than done. Dirrell could win the fight with just his jab. If Dirrell has the stamina that Jermain Taylor didn't have he wins this fight easily. The fight will be like the first few rounds of Froch-Taylor.

[BIG H]

Froch should have more than enough in his armour to see off dirrell and i expect a comfortable points decision. Ive seen 4-5 dirrell fights so far and am not buying him for 1 minute. He`s the weakest of the 6 and fighting the 2nd best of the 6.

The same people on here that think dirrell will beat froch are the same type that believed lacys journey to britain to fight JC was merely a formality and a way to get him over to the european public.


froch by quite a considerable margin

As appose to the Brits who thought Hatton's pressure would overcome Mayweather's speed, right? Chances are Dirrell-Fraud will look more like Mayweather-Hatton than Calzaghe-Lacy

who exactly said that??

i pretty much made a living out of telling everyone that would hear that floyd would win it on points.

once again please continue to make yourself look the dick you obviously are...................

I had PBF inside 7 rounds, so I didn't do Hatton justice lol

I also called Lacy v Calzaghe as 50/50, how wrong I was on that

[BIG H]

P.S I stand by my statement that I have always made, that Froch gets KOed first time he fights a really big (world class) puncher

Hope I'm wrong though

[Fatsandman]

[/QUOTE]
Oh there were several. Some just didn't come back.
And I'm sure all them idiots who made the trip across the pond really thought Hatton was going to lose, right? [/QUOTE]

No VD, they HOPED he'd win but they were there primarily to support their fellow countryman in his attempt to beat the best fighter on the planet. Is that a concept so hard for you to grasp? Are you implying that if they actually thought he may lose they wouldn't have bothered showing up?? Thats not the way it works. They wanted him to win and did all they could to give him the confidence to achieve it....

They also, in most cases, paid more than most of them could probably afford in order to travel to the States to support him. That is where American and British fans may differ. I realize that only about 20-25 people actually own a passort in the States but how many American fight fans traveled to the UK to support Jeff Lacy against Calzaghe? Including Lacy and his cornermen I'd say about four.

Maybe Lacy would have had a better night if the cheers of his traveling fans were filling the stadium...

[Rantcatrat]

Froch should have more than enough in his armour to see off dirrell and i expect a comfortable points decision. Ive seen 4-5 dirrell fights so far and am not buying him for 1 minute. He`s the weakest of the 6 and fighting the 2nd best of the 6.

The same people on here that think dirrell will beat froch are the same type that believed lacys journey to britain to fight JC was merely a formality and a way to get him over to the european public.


froch by quite a considerable margin

As appose to the Brits who thought Hatton's pressure would overcome Mayweather's speed, right? Chances are Dirrell-Fraud will look more like Mayweather-Hatton than Calzaghe-Lacy

Disagree with that mate, the amount of brits on here who thought Hatton would win were no where near as much as the amount of Americans who fought Lacy would beat Calzaghe, if I had to guess id say the amount of Americans who thought Lacy would win id say 90%, amount of Brits who thought Hatton would beat Mayweather I think you would be hard to name 60% on here.

The problem with that logic that most Brits also thought Lacy would win unless they were from Wales.

[Rantcatrat]

Oh there were several. Some just didn't come back.
And I'm sure all them idiots who made the trip across the pond really thought Hatton was going to lose, right? [/quote]

No VD, they HOPED he'd win but they were there primarily to support their fellow countryman in his attempt to beat the best fighter on the planet. Is that a concept so hard for you to grasp? Are you implying that if they actually thought he may lose they wouldn't have bothered showing up?? Thats not the way it works. They wanted him to win and did all they could to give him the confidence to achieve it....

They also, in most cases, paid more than most of them could probably afford in order to travel to the States to support him. That is where American and British fans may differ. I realize that only about 20-25 people actually own a passort in the States but how many American fight fans traveled to the UK to support Jeff Lacy against Calzaghe? Including Lacy and his cornermen I'd say about four.

Maybe Lacy would have had a better night if the cheers of his traveling fans were filling the stadium...[/quote]

British fight fans support their fighters and I respect that. It's classy to travel overseas to support your fighter. I'm "considering" heading to Nottingham to support Dirrell to do the same. I went to the Carl Froch v. Jermain Taylor fight and sat next to six guys from Nottingham who all wore Carl Froch tee-shirts and sang crappy British songs. I was talking mad issh to them - of the "British fighters can't hang" variety. Needless to say, when Froch knocked JT out, I had a lot of words screamed at me that I won't repeat (I didn't understand half of them anyway - what's up with the Nottingham accent?), but it was all in good humor. None of it was mean-spirited even though I would have loved to get a bit gangsta on some brits . Maybe I'll have my day at the Dirrell fight.

[Fatsandman]

P.S I stand by my statement that I have always made, that Froch gets KOed first time he fights a really big (world class) puncher

Hope I'm wrong though

Could happen Big H. But Froch has something that Dirrell doesn't. He's had two BIG fights in which he has had to battle back from near defeat (more so in the Taylor fight than Pascal) and found a way to win impressively. That shows the mark of the man for sure. Every fighter he faces in the future will know that, no matter how well they do against him and no matter how pedestrian they make him appear, he has the mental strength to find a way to win!

For me this super-middle tournament is about two fighters... Froch and Abraham! Those two will put on one of the most gripping and brutal fights seen for years! They are both cut from the same cloth. Both have had near defeats but battled back through them to come out victorious..

Hearts of iron and chins of steel... Can't wait for it!