Haye did what he had to do to win the fight.FACT!

[El Kabong]

Kirkland, so you think Valuev is on par with the Klitschko's?

I'm just enjoying watching you in a panic at the prospect of the objects of your man-love crushes getting flattened by Haye.

Who's panicked? Not me buddy

[Kirkland Laing]

Yeah, I see nothing in the 15000 posts you've made about Haye fighting the Frankenstein brothers since the Valuev fight ended to suggest ongoing panic.

[El Kabong]

So you agree with me....well that was mighty easy.

[rjj tszyu]

...I think we saw what Haye brings to the heavyweight division last night. Why would he try anything different vs anyone else

Did Haye land right hands and left hooks last night? Of course he did.

Now.. Wlad has a china-chin, right? Haye has a seriously hard punch, right?

Seriuosly hard punch hits china-chin it's all over. Wlad's china-chin will be like a red rag to a bull for Haye. He knows he only needs one semi-punch to end it.

Stop acting dumb, Lyle.

As hard as this may be to believe, he isn't acting.

[Spicoli]

Kirkland, so you think Valuev is on par with the Klitschko's?

I'm just enjoying watching you in a panic at the prospect of the objects of your man-love crushes getting flattened by Haye.

Going into a Wlad fight banking on one or two at a time and jumping up with them will see Haye eating jabs like a fat kid eating jellybeans on Easter day.Sure he has the potential to hurt him but Valuev is big...and had a belt.Thats about it.no Wald or Vitali he.

[Kirkland Laing]

So you agree with me....well that was mighty easy.

I told you he wasn't acting.

[rjj tszyu]

So you agree with me....well that was mighty easy.

I told you he wasn't acting.

That you did. One thing about him though, his constant stubborness makes for a good discussion.

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland, so you think Valuev is on par with the Klitschko's?

I'm just enjoying watching you in a panic at the prospect of the objects of your man-love crushes getting flattened by Haye.

Going into a Wlad fight banking on one or two at a time and jumping up with them will see Haye eating jabs like a fat kid eating jellybeans on Easter day.Sure he has the potential to hurt him but Valuev is big...and had a belt.Thats about it.no Wald or Vitali he.

They're tiny tots compared to Valuev. Haye will be able to land more punches and will still be a lot faster than they are. There's a good chance he'll lose to either guy but he's got more chance than any other heavyweight of involving one of them in an exciting fight for the first time ever, so we have for the first time in a long time a tiny ray of light in the heavyweight division.

[El Kabong]

....well Kirkland, just to put your mind at ease, I am not worried about Haye beating Wladimir, I actually be more worried that the fight doesn't get made, because I WANT to see Haye violently KO'd, I mean he has earned that much

[El Kabong]

They're tiny tots compared to Valuev. Haye will be able to land more punches and will still be a lot faster than they are. There's a good chance he'll lose to either guy but he's got more chance than any other heavyweight of involving one of them in an exciting fight for the first time ever, so we have for the first time in a long time a tiny ray of light in the heavyweight division.

He COULD be able to land more punches, but he would have to throw them first and I don't see him changing strategies in that department...Haye throws 1 at a time, that's just as plain as the day is long....sure once or twice in an entire fight he may put together a combination, but Mike Tyson he isn't

[Kirkland Laing]

Mike Tyson he isn't

He doesn't need to be Mike Tyson, he only needs to get to pro-celebrity golfer level.

[Lance Uppercut]

Haye stunk it up. I expected a lot more out of him. (Maybe he tricked me into believing the hype). I had Valuev winning, although it was close enough to go either way, so I am not mad. But considering that 87 year old Evander Holyfield essentially won every round of his fight against Valuev, I dont think there is much promise.

He better avoid the Ukrainians like the plague.

[rjj tszyu]

They're tiny tots compared to Valuev. Haye will be able to land more punches and will still be a lot faster than they are. There's a good chance he'll lose to either guy but he's got more chance than any other heavyweight of involving one of them in an exciting fight for the first time ever, so we have for the first time in a long time a tiny ray of light in the heavyweight division.

He COULD be able to land more punches, but he would have to throw them first and I don't see him changing strategies in that department...Haye throws 1 at a time, that's just as plain as the day is long....sure once or twice in an entire fight he may put together a combination, but Mike Tyson he isn't

I'll agree on that he is not Tyson, I'm not delusional, I'm not a huge fan of Tyson and to a certain extent I think he was overrated but at the end of the day he was an all time great and I wish he was back as that young kid blowing everyone out and exciting the boxing world.

[El Kabong]

[quote=Kirkland Laing;808015]He doesn't need to be Mike Tyson, he only needs to get to pro-celebrity golfer level.[quote]
...he's not Corrie Sanders either...and if he was Corrie Sanders and fought Vitali he'd still be in a heap of trouble.

[Spicoli]

I'm just enjoying watching you in a panic at the prospect of the objects of your man-love crushes getting flattened by Haye.

Going into a Wlad fight banking on one or two at a time and jumping up with them will see Haye eating jabs like a fat kid eating jellybeans on Easter day.Sure he has the potential to hurt him but Valuev is big...and had a belt.Thats about it.no Wald or Vitali he.

They're tiny tots compared to Valuev. Haye will be able to land more punches and will still be a lot faster than they are. There's a good chance he'll lose to either guy but he's got more chance than any other heavyweight of involving one of them in an exciting fight for the first time ever, so we have for the first time in a long time a tiny ray of light in the heavyweight division.

They're also 10 times more skilled then Valuev.To land he has to throw which leaves any fighter more vulnerable,especially one that waits and looks for ko's firstly.Thats his shot against Wlad...a Ko.If he over thinks things,sits outside and leaps in he could be in big trouble.Getting past,under that jab will be no easy task and he will have to set things up.I actually think he's good for the division and will bring excitement...but he doesn't walk on water and a little too early to be fitting him for a throne.Both Bros have been in exciting hvy matches and have dealt with adversity,heavyweight adversity.New waters for Haye for the most part...when he gets smacked on the chin and one-two bombs are not enough,we'll see.