Pacquiao and drugs

[:::PSL:::]

hahaha we'll see, noone in the Pac camp has said they will agree to the random testing furthermore they are talking about setting up other fights with other fighters. I'd love to see Pac take and pass the random drug tests. The only reason there is suspicion is because he is refusing to go along with it.

The following statement is still true:

"Pac is refusing to fight because of a drug test"

Pac already said he will do the drug test before and after the fight. What else does Gayweather want?

Ohhhh. He will make silly excuses now just to avoid this fight.

Whew. If only Pac would hear me. I'd say, forget about this fight. You don't need it.

The flaws in your first argument have been pointed out numerous times in the other threads. The tests need to be random.

If Pac doesn't fight Floyd then he will need some opponent and others will likely ask for the same tests now too. Nobody else would want to take the risk and possibly end up like Hatton.

Nobody? BOXINGTALK

[Gandalf]

Pac already said he will do the drug test before and after the fight. What else does Gayweather want?

Ohhhh. He will make silly excuses now just to avoid this fight.

Whew. If only Pac would hear me. I'd say, forget about this fight. You don't need it.

The flaws in your first argument have been pointed out numerous times in the other threads. The tests need to be random.

If Pac doesn't fight Floyd then he will need some opponent and others will likely ask for the same tests now too. Nobody else would want to take the risk and possibly end up like Hatton.

Nobody? BOXINGTALK

Malignaggi surprises me as he helped start this whole drug fiasco in the first place. I read in another article on the board that Bradley would be willing to face him too.

[brucelee]

The flaws in your first argument have been pointed out numerous times in the other threads. The tests need to be random.

If Pac doesn't fight Floyd then he will need some opponent and others will likely ask for the same tests now too. Nobody else would want to take the risk and possibly end up like Hatton.

Nobody? BOXINGTALK

Malignaggi surprises me as he helped start this whole drug fiasco in the first place. I read in another article on the board that Bradley would be willing to face him too.

that means Malignaggi must be making up stories so he could get Pac's attention. He better be ready when Pac sees him in the ring.

[:::PSL:::]

I didn't know the olympic drug testing style was that strict. Damn. 8 to 12 urine samples and three to five blood samples? Mayweather-Pacquiao bout hangs by thread - Press-Telegram

[brucelee]

I didn't know the olympic drug testing style was that strict. Damn. 8 to 12 urine samples and three to five blood samples? Mayweather-Pacquiao bout hangs by thread - Press-Telegram

Timothy Bradley even said this test is crazy. LOL.

I personally don't know of any professional fighter who has done that kind of test during a championship fight.

This makes it crazier.


Gayweather must be very frightened of the Pacman.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I didn't know the olympic drug testing style was that strict. Damn. 8 to 12 urine samples and three to five blood samples? Mayweather-Pacquiao bout hangs by thread - Press-Telegram

Timothy Bradley even said this test is crazy. LOL.

I personally don't know of any professional fighter who has done that kind of test during a championship fight.

This makes it crazier.


Gayweather must be very frightened of the Pacman.

most likely the other way around bud

[:::PSL:::]

I didn't know the olympic drug testing style was that strict. Damn. 8 to 12 urine samples and three to five blood samples? Mayweather-Pacquiao bout hangs by thread - Press-Telegram

Timothy Bradley even said this test is crazy. LOL.

I personally don't know of any professional fighter who has done that kind of test during a championship fight.

This makes it crazier.


Gayweather must be very frightened of the Pacman.

History says that no professional boxer have ever performed that kind of test.

[brucelee]

I didn't know the olympic drug testing style was that strict. Damn. 8 to 12 urine samples and three to five blood samples? Mayweather-Pacquiao bout hangs by thread - Press-Telegram

Timothy Bradley even said this test is crazy. LOL.

I personally don't know of any professional fighter who has done that kind of test during a championship fight.

This makes it crazier.


Gayweather must be very frightened of the Pacman.

most likely the other way around bud

As far as I personally know, Pacquaio is not afraid of Mayweather. I'm not sure though about Mayweather not being afraid of Pac.

Pac is itching to silence Mayweather in the ring. LOL. Trust me bud. If there is one fight that Pacquiao wants, it's against Mayweather.

Pac has never avoided anybody. I'm sure Mayweather retired to avoid Cotto. He avoided Margarito, it's written in boxing history. There was the story that he also tried to avoid Mosley. To summarize my theory: gayweather is afraid of anyone who could take his 0 loss.

[brucelee]

I didn't know the olympic drug testing style was that strict. Damn. 8 to 12 urine samples and three to five blood samples? Mayweather-Pacquiao bout hangs by thread - Press-Telegram

Timothy Bradley even said this test is crazy. LOL.

I personally don't know of any professional fighter who has done that kind of test during a championship fight.

This makes it crazier.


Gayweather must be very frightened of the Pacman.

History says that no professional boxer have ever performed that kind of test.

thank you bro. I'll be waiting for a reply that says this kind of testing has been done before.

For now, while no one can tell me about this testing being done on a pro fight, my belief stands true: Mayweather is AFRAID of Pac.

[:::PSL:::]

Timothy Bradley even said this test is crazy. LOL.

I personally don't know of any professional fighter who has done that kind of test during a championship fight.

This makes it crazier.


Gayweather must be very frightened of the Pacman.

most likely the other way around bud

As far as I personally know, Pacquaio is not afraid of Mayweather. I'm not sure though about Mayweather not being afraid of Pac.

Pac is itching to silence Mayweather in the ring. LOL. Trust me bud. If there is one fight that Pacquiao wants, it's against Mayweather.

Pac has never avoided anybody. I'm sure Mayweather retired to avoid Cotto. He avoided Margarito, it's written in boxing history. There was the story that he also tried to avoid Mosley. To summarize my theory: gayweather is afraid of anyone who could take his 0 loss.

Yep. Fraudweather avoided too many big names at WW. That's why he retired in the first place coz he couldn't take the pressure. Lol And now he's accusing Pac of cheating? Floyd cheated to get more advantage in his last fight, and that is a PROVEN FACT.

[brucelee]

most likely the other way around bud

As far as I personally know, Pacquaio is not afraid of Mayweather. I'm not sure though about Mayweather not being afraid of Pac.

Pac is itching to silence Mayweather in the ring. LOL. Trust me bud. If there is one fight that Pacquiao wants, it's against Mayweather.

Pac has never avoided anybody. I'm sure Mayweather retired to avoid Cotto. He avoided Margarito, it's written in boxing history. There was the story that he also tried to avoid Mosley. To summarize my theory: gayweather is afraid of anyone who could take his 0 loss.

Yep. Fraudweather avoided too many big names at WW. That's why he retired in the first place coz he couldn't take the pressure. Lol And now he's accusing Pac of cheating? Floyd cheated to get more advantage in his last fight, and that is a PROVEN FACT.

And it seems people are forgetting how he cheated against Marquez by coming overweight and refusing to be weigh in during the fight.

It was clear that Marquez could hardly hurt Gayweather. I amost cried for marquez that time coz I know he was being cheated. He was like hitting a brick wall while gayweather increasingly gained confidence coz he knows marquez could not hurt him.

And gayweather has the courage to claim that he's the best in boxing history.

He's clearly afraid of big punchers so he's trying his best to avoid Pac.

The steroid thing is just his diversionary technique to avoid the fight. FACT.

[Snakey]

So pac fans let just say pac fought and LOST to a roided up fighter and they found out two yrs later. I bet you would be all burning down that guys house. You say mayweather is scared to fight pac coz he asked for a drug test, this shouldnt be a sign of being scared because if there is nothing wrong then pac shouldnt be turned away by the idea. If pac was all good then he would jump up straight away and say no probs....but he hasnt.


You are all proving to be pac fanboys!!! I dont give a flying fuck who you are, what you have done, where you been... if you are an elite sportsman then you should be randomly drug tested all the time and i dont give flying fuck if its sprinting,swimming,football,soccer,baddminton,tenn is,synchronised swimming...or boxing. I think this is a step forward for boxing, it should of been done years ago. People already look at boxing as barbaric, how are we helping it by helping cheaters evade exposure?

You are going to jump on me and say your a pac hater but im not, yes im going for mayweather but i dont hate pac and i certainly dont want him to test positive as it would just devestate boxing but if he is doing something illegal it needs to be exposed so our sport can have the credibility of other sports.

[hitmanhatton]

Ok, so all of a sudden Manny Pacquiao is under suspicion of taking performance enhancing drugs. People are questioning his achievements, saying he may have used PEDs in his fights with DLH, Hatton and Cotto?

Why?

Because Floyd Mayweather Sr says so? I'm sorry, but I'm not sure if that fucking crackhead is the most reliable source to be talking about anybody being on steroids.

Also, Pac's performances have been incredible, but it's not power that's beating these guys (apart from Hatton, which was at 140) it's SPEED. So, there are drugs that you can take to make stronger, but is there one that you can take to make you faster and improve your reflexes? With Cotto and DLH, he beat those guys with speed and despite landing plenty of flush shots couldn't knock them out.


I think this is bullshit that people are all of a sudden questioning a guys achievements when he has never tested positive for a PED in his life, all on the basis of smoke that got started by the most honourable guy in boxing Floyd Mayweather Sr.


THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT. Nevada's testing procedures have found out numerous cheats, yet Pacquiao has never tested positive. Yet now people are thinking bad of him because the Mayweather's start some shit. It's the fucking MAYWEATHER's people. Floyd is such an arsehole he didn't even look after Hatton after his fighter had been KO'd... Roger, and the Floyd's = the scum of the fucking earth.

of course there is !

why do you think steroid use is common in sports such as sprinting ? never known any of them need to improve their punching power

[albsur2006]

As far as I personally know, Pacquaio is not afraid of Mayweather. I'm not sure though about Mayweather not being afraid of Pac.

Pac is itching to silence Mayweather in the ring. LOL. Trust me bud. If there is one fight that Pacquiao wants, it's against Mayweather.

Pac has never avoided anybody. I'm sure Mayweather retired to avoid Cotto. He avoided Margarito, it's written in boxing history. There was the story that he also tried to avoid Mosley. To summarize my theory: gayweather is afraid of anyone who could take his 0 loss.

Yep. Fraudweather avoided too many big names at WW. That's why he retired in the first place coz he couldn't take the pressure. Lol And now he's accusing Pac of cheating? Floyd cheated to get more advantage in his last fight, and that is a PROVEN FACT.

And it seems people are forgetting how he cheated against Marquez by coming overweight and refusing to be weigh in during the fight.

It was clear that Marquez could hardly hurt Gayweather. I amost cried for marquez that time coz I know he was being cheated. He was like hitting a brick wall while gayweather increasingly gained confidence coz he knows marquez could not hurt him.

And gayweather has the courage to claim that he's the best in boxing history.

He's clearly afraid of big punchers so he's trying his best to avoid Pac.

The steroid thing is just his diversionary technique to avoid the fight. FACT.

How is it a diversionary technique? It's only a diversionary technique if Manny is in fact on PEDs because then Manny won't wanna be tested and won't fight. Mayweather has the courage to prove that he's completely clean and Manny does not apparently. This isn't the 80s, people wanna know more than ever if their favorite athletes are clean. Fact of the matter is that BOTH guys could be on PEDs and we wouldn't know it because the NSAC commission urine testing is a complete joke and anybody that fails it doesn't really know PEDs. The difference is that Mayweather knows how big a deal PED use is in America because he's here all the time, so he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Let me ask you a question man, do you care if Manny is REALLY clean or not? There is no good urine tests for HGH and EPO is out of your system in days. This talking about taking blood 30 days before the fight that Manny's team suggested is even a bigger indicator that something is up. To someone that doesn't know shit about PEDs, you'd say "well he's agreed to give blood" but if you do know even the smallest info about PEDs then you'd know that 30 days is NOTHING for someone that understands PEDs. An experienced PEDs user would pass a 30 day pre fight and post fight urine and blood test 99% percent of the time. Plus, some of the other new age PEDs can't even be tested by urine. So really you don't know if Manny is clean. It's the RANDOM blood tests that catch guys. I don't know if Mayweather is clean either but he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Do you care if Manny is actually clean? Or don't you?

[Dr. Steelhammer]

Yep. Fraudweather avoided too many big names at WW. That's why he retired in the first place coz he couldn't take the pressure. Lol And now he's accusing Pac of cheating? Floyd cheated to get more advantage in his last fight, and that is a PROVEN FACT.

And it seems people are forgetting how he cheated against Marquez by coming overweight and refusing to be weigh in during the fight.

It was clear that Marquez could hardly hurt Gayweather. I amost cried for marquez that time coz I know he was being cheated. He was like hitting a brick wall while gayweather increasingly gained confidence coz he knows marquez could not hurt him.

And gayweather has the courage to claim that he's the best in boxing history.

He's clearly afraid of big punchers so he's trying his best to avoid Pac.

The steroid thing is just his diversionary technique to avoid the fight. FACT.

How is it a diversionary technique? It's only a diversionary technique if Manny is in fact on PEDs because then Manny won't wanna be tested and won't fight. Mayweather has the courage to prove that he's completely clean and Manny does not apparently. This isn't the 80s, people wanna know more than ever if their favorite athletes are clean. Fact of the matter is that BOTH guys could be on PEDs and we wouldn't know it because the NSAC commission urine testing is a complete joke and anybody that fails it doesn't really know PEDs. The difference is that Mayweather knows how big a deal PED use is in America because he's here all the time, so he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Let me ask you a question man, do you care if Manny is REALLY clean or not? There is no good urine tests for HGH and EPO is out of your system in days. This talking about taking blood 30 days before the fight that Manny's team suggested is even a bigger indicator that something is up. To someone that doesn't know shit about PEDs, you'd say "well he's agreed to give blood" but if you do know even the smallest info about PEDs then you'd know that 30 days is NOTHING for someone that understands PEDs. An experienced PEDs user would pass a 30 day pre fight and post fight urine and blood test 99% percent of the time. Plus, some of the other new age PEDs can't even be tested by urine. So really you don't know if Manny is clean. It's the RANDOM blood tests that catch guys. I don't know if Mayweather is clean either but he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Do you care if Manny is actually clean? Or don't you?

Do you wanna know Juan Manuel Lopez is actually clean? Or don't you? Why don't you ask that question to yourself first since Juanma is scheduled to fight about 2 months earlier before the proposed Pac-May fight? Why wont you voice your concern there first? Juanma has unbelievable stamina, chin, and power. fighting 122, 126, and 130 lbs in 1 year. He could be hiding something too.