Pacquiao and drugs

[brucelee]

most likely the other way around bud

As far as I personally know, Pacquaio is not afraid of Mayweather. I'm not sure though about Mayweather not being afraid of Pac.

Pac is itching to silence Mayweather in the ring. LOL. Trust me bud. If there is one fight that Pacquiao wants, it's against Mayweather.

Pac has never avoided anybody. I'm sure Mayweather retired to avoid Cotto. He avoided Margarito, it's written in boxing history. There was the story that he also tried to avoid Mosley. To summarize my theory: gayweather is afraid of anyone who could take his 0 loss.

Yep. Fraudweather avoided too many big names at WW. That's why he retired in the first place coz he couldn't take the pressure. Lol And now he's accusing Pac of cheating? Floyd cheated to get more advantage in his last fight, and that is a PROVEN FACT.

And it seems people are forgetting how he cheated against Marquez by coming overweight and refusing to be weigh in during the fight.

It was clear that Marquez could hardly hurt Gayweather. I amost cried for marquez that time coz I know he was being cheated. He was like hitting a brick wall while gayweather increasingly gained confidence coz he knows marquez could not hurt him.

And gayweather has the courage to claim that he's the best in boxing history.

He's clearly afraid of big punchers so he's trying his best to avoid Pac.

The steroid thing is just his diversionary technique to avoid the fight. FACT.

[Snakey]

So pac fans let just say pac fought and LOST to a roided up fighter and they found out two yrs later. I bet you would be all burning down that guys house. You say mayweather is scared to fight pac coz he asked for a drug test, this shouldnt be a sign of being scared because if there is nothing wrong then pac shouldnt be turned away by the idea. If pac was all good then he would jump up straight away and say no probs....but he hasnt.


You are all proving to be pac fanboys!!! I dont give a flying fuck who you are, what you have done, where you been... if you are an elite sportsman then you should be randomly drug tested all the time and i dont give flying fuck if its sprinting,swimming,football,soccer,baddminton,tenn is,synchronised swimming...or boxing. I think this is a step forward for boxing, it should of been done years ago. People already look at boxing as barbaric, how are we helping it by helping cheaters evade exposure?

You are going to jump on me and say your a pac hater but im not, yes im going for mayweather but i dont hate pac and i certainly dont want him to test positive as it would just devestate boxing but if he is doing something illegal it needs to be exposed so our sport can have the credibility of other sports.

[albsur2006]

As far as I personally know, Pacquaio is not afraid of Mayweather. I'm not sure though about Mayweather not being afraid of Pac.

Pac is itching to silence Mayweather in the ring. LOL. Trust me bud. If there is one fight that Pacquiao wants, it's against Mayweather.

Pac has never avoided anybody. I'm sure Mayweather retired to avoid Cotto. He avoided Margarito, it's written in boxing history. There was the story that he also tried to avoid Mosley. To summarize my theory: gayweather is afraid of anyone who could take his 0 loss.

Yep. Fraudweather avoided too many big names at WW. That's why he retired in the first place coz he couldn't take the pressure. Lol And now he's accusing Pac of cheating? Floyd cheated to get more advantage in his last fight, and that is a PROVEN FACT.

And it seems people are forgetting how he cheated against Marquez by coming overweight and refusing to be weigh in during the fight.

It was clear that Marquez could hardly hurt Gayweather. I amost cried for marquez that time coz I know he was being cheated. He was like hitting a brick wall while gayweather increasingly gained confidence coz he knows marquez could not hurt him.

And gayweather has the courage to claim that he's the best in boxing history.

He's clearly afraid of big punchers so he's trying his best to avoid Pac.

The steroid thing is just his diversionary technique to avoid the fight. FACT.

How is it a diversionary technique? It's only a diversionary technique if Manny is in fact on PEDs because then Manny won't wanna be tested and won't fight. Mayweather has the courage to prove that he's completely clean and Manny does not apparently. This isn't the 80s, people wanna know more than ever if their favorite athletes are clean. Fact of the matter is that BOTH guys could be on PEDs and we wouldn't know it because the NSAC commission urine testing is a complete joke and anybody that fails it doesn't really know PEDs. The difference is that Mayweather knows how big a deal PED use is in America because he's here all the time, so he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Let me ask you a question man, do you care if Manny is REALLY clean or not? There is no good urine tests for HGH and EPO is out of your system in days. This talking about taking blood 30 days before the fight that Manny's team suggested is even a bigger indicator that something is up. To someone that doesn't know shit about PEDs, you'd say "well he's agreed to give blood" but if you do know even the smallest info about PEDs then you'd know that 30 days is NOTHING for someone that understands PEDs. An experienced PEDs user would pass a 30 day pre fight and post fight urine and blood test 99% percent of the time. Plus, some of the other new age PEDs can't even be tested by urine. So really you don't know if Manny is clean. It's the RANDOM blood tests that catch guys. I don't know if Mayweather is clean either but he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Do you care if Manny is actually clean? Or don't you?

[Dr. Steelhammer]

Yep. Fraudweather avoided too many big names at WW. That's why he retired in the first place coz he couldn't take the pressure. Lol And now he's accusing Pac of cheating? Floyd cheated to get more advantage in his last fight, and that is a PROVEN FACT.

And it seems people are forgetting how he cheated against Marquez by coming overweight and refusing to be weigh in during the fight.

It was clear that Marquez could hardly hurt Gayweather. I amost cried for marquez that time coz I know he was being cheated. He was like hitting a brick wall while gayweather increasingly gained confidence coz he knows marquez could not hurt him.

And gayweather has the courage to claim that he's the best in boxing history.

He's clearly afraid of big punchers so he's trying his best to avoid Pac.

The steroid thing is just his diversionary technique to avoid the fight. FACT.

How is it a diversionary technique? It's only a diversionary technique if Manny is in fact on PEDs because then Manny won't wanna be tested and won't fight. Mayweather has the courage to prove that he's completely clean and Manny does not apparently. This isn't the 80s, people wanna know more than ever if their favorite athletes are clean. Fact of the matter is that BOTH guys could be on PEDs and we wouldn't know it because the NSAC commission urine testing is a complete joke and anybody that fails it doesn't really know PEDs. The difference is that Mayweather knows how big a deal PED use is in America because he's here all the time, so he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Let me ask you a question man, do you care if Manny is REALLY clean or not? There is no good urine tests for HGH and EPO is out of your system in days. This talking about taking blood 30 days before the fight that Manny's team suggested is even a bigger indicator that something is up. To someone that doesn't know shit about PEDs, you'd say "well he's agreed to give blood" but if you do know even the smallest info about PEDs then you'd know that 30 days is NOTHING for someone that understands PEDs. An experienced PEDs user would pass a 30 day pre fight and post fight urine and blood test 99% percent of the time. Plus, some of the other new age PEDs can't even be tested by urine. So really you don't know if Manny is clean. It's the RANDOM blood tests that catch guys. I don't know if Mayweather is clean either but he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Do you care if Manny is actually clean? Or don't you?

Do you wanna know Juan Manuel Lopez is actually clean? Or don't you? Why don't you ask that question to yourself first since Juanma is scheduled to fight about 2 months earlier before the proposed Pac-May fight? Why wont you voice your concern there first? Juanma has unbelievable stamina, chin, and power. fighting 122, 126, and 130 lbs in 1 year. He could be hiding something too.

[hitmanhatton]

And it seems people are forgetting how he cheated against Marquez by coming overweight and refusing to be weigh in during the fight.

It was clear that Marquez could hardly hurt Gayweather. I amost cried for marquez that time coz I know he was being cheated. He was like hitting a brick wall while gayweather increasingly gained confidence coz he knows marquez could not hurt him.

And gayweather has the courage to claim that he's the best in boxing history.

He's clearly afraid of big punchers so he's trying his best to avoid Pac.

The steroid thing is just his diversionary technique to avoid the fight. FACT.

How is it a diversionary technique? It's only a diversionary technique if Manny is in fact on PEDs because then Manny won't wanna be tested and won't fight. Mayweather has the courage to prove that he's completely clean and Manny does not apparently. This isn't the 80s, people wanna know more than ever if their favorite athletes are clean. Fact of the matter is that BOTH guys could be on PEDs and we wouldn't know it because the NSAC commission urine testing is a complete joke and anybody that fails it doesn't really know PEDs. The difference is that Mayweather knows how big a deal PED use is in America because he's here all the time, so he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Let me ask you a question man, do you care if Manny is REALLY clean or not? There is no good urine tests for HGH and EPO is out of your system in days. This talking about taking blood 30 days before the fight that Manny's team suggested is even a bigger indicator that something is up. To someone that doesn't know shit about PEDs, you'd say "well he's agreed to give blood" but if you do know even the smallest info about PEDs then you'd know that 30 days is NOTHING for someone that understands PEDs. An experienced PEDs user would pass a 30 day pre fight and post fight urine and blood test 99% percent of the time. Plus, some of the other new age PEDs can't even be tested by urine. So really you don't know if Manny is clean. It's the RANDOM blood tests that catch guys. I don't know if Mayweather is clean either but he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Do you care if Manny is actually clean? Or don't you?

Do you wanna know Juan Manuel Lopez is actually clean? Or don't you? Why don't you ask that question to yourself first since Juanma is scheduled to fight about 2 months earlier before the proposed Pac-May fight? Why wont you voice your concern there first? Juanma has unbelievable stamina, chin, and power. fighting 122, 126, and 130 lbs in 1 year. He could be hiding something too.

ermmm no

he has fought at 122 only so far and is set to make his debut at 126 in january ..... dont just try and make up facts

[albsur2006]

And it seems people are forgetting how he cheated against Marquez by coming overweight and refusing to be weigh in during the fight.

It was clear that Marquez could hardly hurt Gayweather. I amost cried for marquez that time coz I know he was being cheated. He was like hitting a brick wall while gayweather increasingly gained confidence coz he knows marquez could not hurt him.

And gayweather has the courage to claim that he's the best in boxing history.

He's clearly afraid of big punchers so he's trying his best to avoid Pac.

The steroid thing is just his diversionary technique to avoid the fight. FACT.

How is it a diversionary technique? It's only a diversionary technique if Manny is in fact on PEDs because then Manny won't wanna be tested and won't fight. Mayweather has the courage to prove that he's completely clean and Manny does not apparently. This isn't the 80s, people wanna know more than ever if their favorite athletes are clean. Fact of the matter is that BOTH guys could be on PEDs and we wouldn't know it because the NSAC commission urine testing is a complete joke and anybody that fails it doesn't really know PEDs. The difference is that Mayweather knows how big a deal PED use is in America because he's here all the time, so he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Let me ask you a question man, do you care if Manny is REALLY clean or not? There is no good urine tests for HGH and EPO is out of your system in days. This talking about taking blood 30 days before the fight that Manny's team suggested is even a bigger indicator that something is up. To someone that doesn't know shit about PEDs, you'd say "well he's agreed to give blood" but if you do know even the smallest info about PEDs then you'd know that 30 days is NOTHING for someone that understands PEDs. An experienced PEDs user would pass a 30 day pre fight and post fight urine and blood test 99% percent of the time. Plus, some of the other new age PEDs can't even be tested by urine. So really you don't know if Manny is clean. It's the RANDOM blood tests that catch guys. I don't know if Mayweather is clean either but he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Do you care if Manny is actually clean? Or don't you?

Do you wanna know Juan Manuel Lopez is actually clean? Or don't you? Why don't you ask that question to yourself first since Juanma is scheduled to fight about 2 months earlier before the proposed Pac-May fight? Why wont you voice your concern there first? Juanma has unbelievable stamina, chin, and power. fighting 122, 126, and 130 lbs in 1 year. He could be hiding something too.

Yeah, I'd love to know if ALL my favorite fighters are TRULY clean but the opportunity hasn't arisen for some of the them. I've always known the NSAC testing system is a joke but for my favorite fighters I just assume that they are clean. But in this case, my favorite fighter Mayweather is proving that he is clean, while one of my other favorite's Pacquiao is not. If you're asking me would I rather see them fight without the USADA testing then see them not fight at all. I'll tell you that I'd rather see the fight and hope that both guys are clean. But the fact that Manny does not wanna take the test is a huge red flag. You can bring up whatever other boxers and what not but that's not important really. Juanma's opponent could ask for USADA testing but he don't care. In this case with so much on the line, so much legacy on the line, Mayweather wants to prove he's clean and know that he's facing a clean guy in the ring. Why in the hell would ANY boxing fan be against that? Maybe this would have set a GOOD precedent and other big fights would start to have it. The point of the matter is that if Zab Judah tests positive for PEDs, really I don't care that much because of his impact on the sport, if Floyd or Manny tests positive, that's just a MUCH bigger deal. That would be like Lebron James, Peyton Manning, Tiger Woods, testing positive in their respective sports. Nobody really cares about Juanma right now because he's not the face of the sport. Floyd and Manny are. It's a completely different stage and a completely different set of responsibilities. These guys have to understand that the public has the right to say anything they want and they can prove the public wrong or not. Floyd is willing too. Manny is not.

[ElTerribleMorales]

And it seems people are forgetting how he cheated against Marquez by coming overweight and refusing to be weigh in during the fight.

It was clear that Marquez could hardly hurt Gayweather. I amost cried for marquez that time coz I know he was being cheated. He was like hitting a brick wall while gayweather increasingly gained confidence coz he knows marquez could not hurt him.

And gayweather has the courage to claim that he's the best in boxing history.

He's clearly afraid of big punchers so he's trying his best to avoid Pac.

The steroid thing is just his diversionary technique to avoid the fight. FACT.

How is it a diversionary technique? It's only a diversionary technique if Manny is in fact on PEDs because then Manny won't wanna be tested and won't fight. Mayweather has the courage to prove that he's completely clean and Manny does not apparently. This isn't the 80s, people wanna know more than ever if their favorite athletes are clean. Fact of the matter is that BOTH guys could be on PEDs and we wouldn't know it because the NSAC commission urine testing is a complete joke and anybody that fails it doesn't really know PEDs. The difference is that Mayweather knows how big a deal PED use is in America because he's here all the time, so he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Let me ask you a question man, do you care if Manny is REALLY clean or not? There is no good urine tests for HGH and EPO is out of your system in days. This talking about taking blood 30 days before the fight that Manny's team suggested is even a bigger indicator that something is up. To someone that doesn't know shit about PEDs, you'd say "well he's agreed to give blood" but if you do know even the smallest info about PEDs then you'd know that 30 days is NOTHING for someone that understands PEDs. An experienced PEDs user would pass a 30 day pre fight and post fight urine and blood test 99% percent of the time. Plus, some of the other new age PEDs can't even be tested by urine. So really you don't know if Manny is clean. It's the RANDOM blood tests that catch guys. I don't know if Mayweather is clean either but he's willing to take the tests. Manny is not. Do you care if Manny is actually clean? Or don't you?

Do you wanna know Juan Manuel Lopez is actually clean? Or don't you? Why don't you ask that question to yourself first since Juanma is scheduled to fight about 2 months earlier before the proposed Pac-May fight? Why wont you voice your concern there first? Juanma has unbelievable stamina, chin, and power. fighting 122, 126, and 130 lbs in 1 year. He could be hiding something too.

Juanma has only fought in one weight class, his stamina was shit the last time out, and he was rocked plenty

he didn't fly up from 106 to 147, get rocked badly by the likes of Larios, Morales, Marquez, and others then be able to take flush shots by a natural welterweight

[mnmc10]

mayweather is a cheat, he purposely went in the jmm fight overweight and he refused to be weighed in too. how can he be great? he cheated FACT and has proof!

now do you guys have solid evidence that pac is a cheat? allegations yes but proof none!



"he didn't fly up from 106 to 147, get rocked badly by the likes of Larios, Morales, Marquez, and others then be able to take flush shots by a natural welterweight"

thats cause on the higher weights pac didnt drained himself to death. now he comes in almost natural walking weight.




i noticed my fellow pinoys are pretty riled up in posting, hacked account?