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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    Of course you don't. Cuz you can't. And deep down inside you know it. You know there is really no good reason why Pac doesn't just take the tests. You know he's hiding something. Problem is you been slobbering on Pac's dikk for so long you can't bring yourself to speak ill about the fighter who's naked poster decorates your bed room wall
    he has been tested a multiple times and results are negative. the random tests before the fight will happen the fight will continue.


    you really like imagining dikks eh? you often post about fans having sex with boxers, is that some secret fantasy of yours? you just love thinking about it your starting to turn GAY. your sentences usually contains profanity and insults pretty much like a thug... yes your just that a GAY THUG! ahahahahaha



    killersheep,

    i thought you where talking about facts that pac is indeed juicing.
    Nope I have consistently stated as fact that Pac is backing out of this fight, because he is refusing a drug test. Which is a fact.

    hater


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    For me the bottom line is, for a fight of this magnatude and with all the money and fame and respect blah blah blah that either guy stands to get out of this...you could poke me with anything short of another man every other day for all i give a shit. I wouldn't be holding this fight up for anything. Who cares what floyd asks for do it. Not like pac isn't asking for silly shit too. Anything else is either a scheme to build the fight more, or something shady on pac's end. I'll just be glad when it's all over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    It's been said before, urine and pre-scheduled drug tests are easy to beat (esp, for the #1 p4p fighter with unlimited resources). There are articles upon articles (you can start with the one by Conte, it's a fairly easy read for us non-scientists) and scientists and doctors that will testify to the fact. It's indisputable. The thing that makes Pacquiao look guilty aren't his physical oddities of the past couple years, not the numerical oddities, not even suspicious comments coming from his team. It's the fact that he's been so ridiculously opposed to the tests and with absolutely no good reason. He's scarred of needles? So am I. Needles (along with bee-stings) are my two biggest fears. Although, put 40million in front of me and I'll stick the sh*t through my eye.
    I just read an article about Dr. Victor Conte and EPO. And its very informative.

    But according to Dr. Catlin (the doctor credited with breaking the code that implicated the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative or Balco that was owned by the Victor Conte) director of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory in Los Angeles stated that EPO can be detected thru urine and it is sufficient. And blood test is just a screening procedure.

    Excerpt of what i found on the net:

    Question:
    3) If the blood test doesn't have to be performed, then why does it exist? Not only do you say it is unnecessary, but it seems quite invasive and expensive to test athletes' blood when a simple urine test could be done.

    Ans:

    Believe it or not, the blood EPO test is much cheaper than the urine EPO test. The blood test costs somewhere in the ballpark of $60, whereas the urine test costs approximately $400 per test. The reason for this is that conducting the urine EPO test takes up a lot of the time of the technicians in the lab (sometimes up to two or three days) . Thus, the blood urine test can be used in situations to save money.

    If would be very expensive to conduct a urine EPO tests on all athletes at $400 a pop. Thus the blood EPO test can be used to determine which athletes are most likely to be on EPO, and then the urine EPO test can be administered on this smaller sub sample.

    For example purposes only, assume there are 100 athletes and only 1 has used EPO. It would cost $40,000 ($400 *100=$40,000) to test all of them for EPO using the urine EPO test. Instead if the blood test can be used on all the athletes to determine which 10 athletes are most likely to be EPO users, then the expensive urine test can be administered on the 10 suspect athletes and a lot of money can be saved. Combining the blood and the urine test only costs $10,000 ($60*100= $6,000 for the blood test on all the athletes and then 10 * $400= $4000 for the urine test on the 10 suspect athletes).Thus in this hypothetical example, using both the blood and urine test together would save approximately $30,000 as the blood and urine test combination costs only $10,000 versus the $40,000 it would cost to do the urine test on all the athletes.
    source?
    here is the source..
    EPO Drug Testing

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I'm a hugger of neither fighter, but I know when an issue is raised whether it is right or wrong. You have said in your post that these drug tests are "ridiculous". Now that is where you and I differ. I see nothing ridiculous in ensuring that both men are tested to the highest standards possible. This isn't cycling, this is a sport where skulls are being rattled. It's only right that boxing be held to higher standards and it's good that Floyd has raised the issue. Now, if Manny had just agreed to the tests then the fight would have been settled and made. Unfortunately, Manny's team has come up with a series of excuses that have been debunked. Ultimately, he refuses a random series of blood tests, even though Mayweather has said he will undergo the same process. And, now the attempt to sue the Mayweather team and Goldenboy...even though most of us think he should just take the test?

    It has been a PR disaster for Manny, when it needn't have been a big deal. It's a good thing to make weight whence the weight penalty. It's a good thing to know top boxers are clean whence the drug test. Unfortunately Manny couldn't deal with Floyd's one demand and that's why we have the problems we are having.
    I have to agree, and add the reason it's a mistake for Pacquiao, he's possible thinking his 90 million+ fans would stand behind him in the physological game. I think people are being skeptical because of his stance but more than that they are getting fed up because they just want to see the fight. Not an alternative, this fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather. I think the roar will just get louder and louder until the fight is announced.

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    Default Re: Why is pac being crucified on saddo boxing?

    Cause saddo ain't used to seeing such a tiny asian being the fawkn monster he is in the sport. If you guys don't like this forum, there are always other forum where I bet the majority will support pac. Everyone's take is different. At least here there's a lot of different views and there are also a few really good unbiased posters on this board. This is Saddo, it is what it is. If it is anything else...it would be just so boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcR-Reckless View Post
    Cause saddo ain't used to seeing such a tiny asian being the fawkn monster he is in the sport. If you guys don't like this forum, there are always other forum where I bet the majority will support pac. Everyone's take is different. At least here there's a lot of different views and there are also a few really good unbiased posters on this board. This is Saddo, it is what it is. If it is anything else...it would be just so boring.
    what does that make these guys then ?




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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post
    there are only two reasons i can think of..envy and discrimination..because he is asian..he is beating all american and european boxers..read all the post about amir khan you'll read the same..

    about pac's contract demands on glove size, is it not 10oz. the standard for welterweight? why would floyd ask for 12oz.?

    the $10m per lbs penalty should either fighter exceeds the limit of 147lbs is just assurance floyd wont do the same as what he did to JMM. what's the fuss? pac will pay the same should he exceeds 147lbs.

    and why USDA when Travis Tygart has close relationship with Golden Boy Promotions?
    Haha good one you played the race card. Fyi the USDA is the us dairy association. Furthermore, mayweathers team has stated they don't care who administers the test as long as it's random.
    United States Department of Agriculture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15rounder View Post
    I'm sure the both of you would have a problem taking extra drug tests for a job interview that other applicants weren't asked to take am i right? U sure you wouldn't have a problem with that? I know Al Sharpton would
    For 40 millions, knowing the other boxer would have to do the same, I would even accept them to dress me with a pink skirt and to present me as Suzanne during the press conference. It's not like they were asking him to use an experimental test with some dubious substances never tried by a man before, it's just a tea spoon of friggin blood, your body could not even realize that some blood is gone because the quantity is derisory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    This is like herding cats.....get me a kleenex and a pint of cherry vanilla while we're at it.Oh and the crucifix has zero to do with Pacquiao who is an outstanding fighter...and more to do with fan boys and spawning fluffers.
    Interesting.

    So your cynicism leads you to believe that the fight is actually gonna happen and that negotiations aren't completely dead in the water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    This is like herding cats.....get me a kleenex and a pint of cherry vanilla while we're at it.Oh and the crucifix has zero to do with Pacquiao who is an outstanding fighter...and more to do with fan boys and spawning fluffers.
    Interesting.

    So your cynicism leads you to believe that the fight is actually gonna happen and that negotiations aren't completely dead in the water?
    I felt that way until very recently (as in today), now my optimism about the fight being made has begun to fade.

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    Default Re: Why is pac being crucified on saddo boxing?

    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?
    So Pacquiao won't take a random drug screen cause people on here are racist?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?


    There are few things more pathetic than a person who throws around baseless accusations of racism because they have no other way of justifying their argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacQ View Post
    because he is a filipino, asian not american british western.

    pure and simple racial discrimination.

    they say they want a level playing field?

    Floyd is an american based in nevada.
    where is the fight planned to be held - NEVADA USA
    who do they want to do the testing? US olympic testers

    why not try it the other way around?

    let the fight be held here in the philippines? testing to be done by our local agencies.

    thats level playing field right?


    There are few things more pathetic than a person who throws around baseless accusations of racism because they have no other way of justifying their argument.
    just a dose of your own medicine, baseless accusations, judging a person without any evidence at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    This is like herding cats.....get me a kleenex and a pint of cherry vanilla while we're at it.Oh and the crucifix has zero to do with Pacquiao who is an outstanding fighter...and more to do with fan boys and spawning fluffers.
    Interesting.

    So your cynicism leads you to believe that the fight is actually gonna happen and that negotiations aren't completely dead in the water?
    Haa.Shows huh.I think this fight is dead in the water.That rings not big enough for those débutante egos and for the sake of this place,I hope it never happens,have to double the mods and increase the hazard pay .

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