Atlas says reliable sources confirm Manny is juiced

[erik_corrales]

speaking of "reliable sources", check this outtt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBFI7KT4uaw
dammit i hate it that i'm trying to be updated with this shit but i can't help it.

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TOP RANK IS GOING TO GIVE GOLDENBOY AND TEAM MAYWEATHER A 24hr take it or leave it deal!!!! they have not budged off the 24days. If they say no clottey fight is on.

[hitmanhatton]

Of course it is Miles - you'd have to be insane to do that.


IF Pac is juicing, and it's still a pretty big if for me, then you submit to the testing, get off the gear and try and beat him naturally. Win or lose, you take your $40 million and ride off into the sunset.

You DON'T ask them what the penalty would be if you keep doing it


How absurd is that? So Ben Johnson doesn't get caught at Seoul, but Carl Lewis wants random testing for Barcelona. Johnson's coach rings up the Olympic committee and says - "look guys we've got a bit of a problem here... how bad would it be if my guy tests positive for PED's? Hmmm... that's pretty bad... ok... well is there any chance we could keep it a secret for the good of athletics?"


Only in boxing.

I've just got to face facts that I am in love with the most fucked up sport in the world. It's like having a massive horn for a woman who likes to use knives in the bedroom, screw other blokes and who talks about healing and growth all the time. You know it's going to hurt but you go there anyway

who ironically tested positive for a banned substance prior to the 1987 world championships, this was supposedly kept quiet for 'the good of the sport'

his shown a copy of the test result and letter than was sent to him at the time on the documentary Bigger,Faster,Stronger.... didnt seemed too phased by it though

its probably more suprising for any athlete to be NOT using anything than the other way round ... this seems to be the sad truth of it all

[The Shadow]

1) The first asked if the fight could happen and what would be the penalties if PAcquiao was tested positive.

2) Second asked if it was possible to keep it secret for the sake of boxing if Pacquiao was proven positive.


I hope for him that it's true otherwise, here comes the lawsuit but indeed, this is getting quite interesting...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cHRG...ayer_embedded#at 2:00, Atlas states that some reliable sources of him told him that the Pacquiao Clan wrote 2 mails to the Mayweather's camp.

Interesting find, but it's utterly absurd: Why would anyone from the Pacquiao camp send out such e-mails? E-mails that YOU KNOW the Mayweather camp would be all over, and would have already put together a press release containing such e-mails, if such e-mails existed.

I like Atlas. He's a bit of a nut and makes off-the-wall observations sometimes, but he's really a good guy, which isn't too common in such a disgustingly corrupt sport; however, I think this is all conjecture and he said, she said drivel. Mayweather -- along with his camp -- has made claims; those claims haven't been validly substantiated, and they have also been used -- in my humble opinion -- to exploit the lagging interest in a near dead sport, sell tickets and engage in psychological warfare.

Humans are fairly predictable, and greed conquers all - particularly in this sport. The fight WILL happen, its just a matter of when.

As a Pacquiao fan, and as a person who has used anabolics in my distant past, I can't say definitively that he's not dopping. However, I've followed Pac's ascent through the ranks for years, and I can see nothing that would lead me to believe that he's used anabolics or G.H.

The fact that he doesn't want to be tested shortly before the fight doesn't make much sense and seems to lend itself to the idea that this decision is governed by superstition on Pacquiao's part. These are boxers, folks. They aren't calculating the expansion rate of the universe or working on String Theory.

I think that Mayweather is doing a wonderful job of selling a fight which may potentially trump all other boxing events. Although unlikely, I hope he does a far worse job in the ring and gets the thorough leveling he has coming to him in the not so distant future.

[OumaFan]

This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard of in my life. I'm sorry but my faith in mankind will be shot to shit if Manny's people tried to discuss this with Floyd's people THROUGH EMAIL. Hi Police, I was just wondering if its ok if I could sleep with dead people. Thanks in advance for your response. P.S. please DON'T forward this to anyone.

DUMBEST SHIT I'VE EVER HEARD.

Teddy better have seen these emails.

If this is true I'll just be deeply disturbed about the future of mankind.

He's probably juicing but this is effing ridiculous.

[rjj tszyu]

Could team Pac really be so dumb? Really??

I mean every other decision they make seems genius, like making ODLH drain right down to 147. I don't think they'd make stupid mistakes like this!! Probably more mind games and selling to the public.

I wouldn't be suprised if the fight really has been agreed but maybe for May or June and with such a stretch maybe they are just thinking of some way to keep it in the press, then Manny does take the test he comes out clean and regains his superman status at least until PBF kicks his ass.

This is something like the most likely scenario for me.

[markb018]

I also did read about this in the article Atlas is referring to, not that it makes it true. I guess it would be easy to prove if in fact there are e-mails. Not sure if they haven't come out cause of the gag order or it is just bullshit. The saga continues....

[Preme]

Yeah I pretty much agree, it's very hard to state how his sources are reliable but it seems like there is a bit more smoke than what it used to have, I don't know but if I was Atlas, I wouldn't make such comment with a very high certitude, especially now that some lawsuits have been engaged. let's see how it pans out and definitely, 2 weeks window is more than acceptable in the circumstances.

Well i dont think hes that liable because he says hes not claiming manny is dirty and that he has someone telling him that they saw emails. He is not claimed to have seen them himself, hes only saying what someone else told him.

That's true. Atlas probably covered himself quite well.

he has to cover him self, i mean he lives in a country where people sue mcdonalds for milliond coz the coffee is to hot...

i don't think Atlas is the type to lie...

[ono]

Well if Atlas is saying it, he's not juicing. You can take that one to the bank.

[Nameless]

as I said before, I agree with all of you wondering why they would write emails, especially because they could send a representative to talk or speak in person how... however, I wonder why Teddy would otherwise make such statements that could potentially put him in the murky deep... Perhaps a bit too much faith in his sources or an indirect attempt to get the fight done by putting pressure on Pacman to take the test.... Dunno, this is just this part (why say that if it's not true and risk some lawsuits) that makes me to wonder.
If it is true, I could imagine that the Mayweather's camp would still ponder their options and assuredly not spit on such a juicy match right away. As they say, money makes the world go round, perhaps they would ask for 5-10 millions if he's tested positive, agree to keep under silence and just bank the bonus or something, which could make a fair bargain in exchange of the 10 millions per pound.
IF we speculate even more (keep in mind, we're just talking to talk and evaluate), the Mayweather camp and PAcquiao deliberately didn't do the match for march to allow more time to find a compromise about the Peds thing or to give the time to Manny to come out with a clean organism for the fight, all that kept secret for some financial reasons and for the sake of boxing (assuming he took peds, of course).

[Andre]

People on this forum have lost it! I would not say Pacquiao is afraid to take a blood test because he might get caught. It makes no logical sense at all. Here is why.

Let us say, you have amassed a very nice fortune and could retire today. You love your wife and family dearly and wouldn't do anything to jeopardize your relationship. They are more important to you than anything and would die for them. You are planning a trip to a Vegas conference. You have actually cheated on your wife and got away with it because it's impossible that you could ever get caught. (There is almost no guy wouldn't) Your friend is another very wealthy guy going with you and his gold digger wife suspects him of cheating. His wife is watching him very closely and has actually hired a private detective to watch his every move. Your wife knows this and has told you about it. Your friend tells you that he has lined up some very hot playboy mansion type girls for your trip to Vegas. Now tell me you're going to screw up the life you love and cheat! That would make no sense at all.

That explains it all then. Seriously, I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Me either, that post is made up and its not only clutching at straws, its making them out of plastic then clutching at them.

[Master]

The whole thing is a joke, never have I know crap like this and really puts me off boxing. Juicing up is wrong and Pac Man has been caught out!

That's for impartial and civilized people to decide thus explained the lawsuit. Sadly you're excluded so stick to your mob/street justice and continue masturbating to whatever those crackhead Mayweather says.

Pac actions say it all, are you not suspicious?

[JazMerkin]

I'd like to think they're not that stupid, but the general reaction from Top Rank & Team Pacquiao ('he's afraid of needles', 'he has a superstition about getting his blood taken more than 24 days before a fight' etc) lead me to believe they actually are that stupid. There's still no guarantee that it's true & its probably BS, even if Atlas isn't the kind of guy to say shit he's not convinced by.

Oh & no way does Mayweather expose these emails for one reason - there's a $40m payday still lurking. If they do exist, they will only be exposed once its clear the fight will never happen. Floyd loves money too much to completely close off a big chunk of it by exposing Pacquiao if he is guilty.

[Cressa121]

I can't see this being true, I mean you'd have to be unbelievably stupid to do this kind of thing by e-mail. Atlas must be pretty confident in his sources though because with the whole court case you'd have to be pretty dumb yourself to make claims like that without being confident what you've been told is true. He covered himself quite well, but this sounds like BS to me.

[JJson]

Of course MP sycophants will now scream that Freddy Atlas is biased. If he had taken their idiotic position of course he would be balanced and credible.

Freddie Atlas said that sources who he trusted said they saw the emails. That means that people, in whose veracity he had absolute confidence supplied him with this information.

I surmise that GBP, because they have a stake in Manny, is probably holding down on circulating this info. When it does come out we can look forward to the even more stretching of logic and commonsense by MP sycophants.

[JazMerkin]

Of course MP sycophants will now scream that Freddy Atlas is biased. If he had taken their idiotic position of course he would be balanced and credible.

Freddie Atlas said that sources who he trusted said they saw the emails. That means that people, in whose veracity he had absolute confidence supplied him with this information.

I surmise that GBP, because they have a stake in Manny, is probably holding down on circulating this info. When it does come out we can look forward to the even more stretching of logic and commonsense by MP sycophants.

Yeah, good ol' Freddie Atlas