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  • Berto decision

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Thread: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
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    He has all the talent to become a P4P star in the sport, he just needs to work on a few things like squaring up and loading up and winging his punches and he'll be fine. However, those have been glaring issues for so long now they seem to have become bad habits.
    I think those things can be worked on. The coverage over here were really questioning whether his head was in the right place following what he saw in Haiti. He wouldn't be able to live with Floyd, Shane or Manny right now, but he should keep busy maybe fighting Cotto, he's part of the next gen of 147lbers with Mike Jones & Saul Alvarez.
    I'd rather see him knock out Margarito.
    As much as I loathe Margarito, that would be a very interesting fight to watch. I doubt Berto would knock him out though, unless Mosley completely shattered Margarito's chin.

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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
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    He has all the talent to become a P4P star in the sport, he just needs to work on a few things like squaring up and loading up and winging his punches and he'll be fine. However, those have been glaring issues for so long now they seem to have become bad habits.
    I think those things can be worked on. The coverage over here were really questioning whether his head was in the right place following what he saw in Haiti. He wouldn't be able to live with Floyd, Shane or Manny right now, but he should keep busy maybe fighting Cotto, he's part of the next gen of 147lbers with Mike Jones & Saul Alvarez.
    I think they can be worked on too, but my point is that they've been clear issues for a long time now and they still haven't been corrected. IMO that's a big red flag for Berto going forward. He should avoid Cotto at this point, unless it becomes clear in the Foreman fight that he's really on the slide. I'd like to see him rematch Collazo.
    I honestly think he'd beat Cotto right now, I think Cotto isn't the same fighter pre-Margarito & subsequent fights with Clottey & Pacquiao have taken a lot out of him. But, then he's not part of the Bob Arum fraternity so he wouldn't get it. He should steer clear of the big 3 though. I think he will rematch Collazo if Collazo beats Aydin. Even an Aydin fight would be good, because Aydin can bang. If Shane loses to Mayweather, maybe a fight somewhere down the line wouldn't be a bad idea, although I reckon that PBF, Pac & possibly Shane will all be retired or about to by this time next year.

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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
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    I think those things can be worked on. The coverage over here were really questioning whether his head was in the right place following what he saw in Haiti. He wouldn't be able to live with Floyd, Shane or Manny right now, but he should keep busy maybe fighting Cotto, he's part of the next gen of 147lbers with Mike Jones & Saul Alvarez.
    I'd rather see him knock out Margarito.
    As much as I loathe Margarito, that would be a very interesting fight to watch. I doubt Berto would knock him out though, unless Mosley completely shattered Margarito's chin.
    Berto is stylistically quite similar to Shane, so he could just watch the tactics & replicate the performance. I'd enjoy watching it though because I think Margarito is done

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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
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    I'd rather see him knock out Margarito.
    As much as I loathe Margarito, that would be a very interesting fight to watch. I doubt Berto would knock him out though, unless Mosley completely shattered Margarito's chin.
    Berto is stylistically quite similar to Shane, so he could just watch the tactics & replicate the performance. I'd enjoy watching it though because I think Margarito is done
    Berto doesn't have the intelligence or the power of Mosley though. I think there's a good chance he would be overwhelmed by Margarito's pressure and end up being forced into a toe-to-toe fight instead of moving and countering like Mosley. WHo knows though, I really have no idea how that fight would play out. I'd really like to see it, though I'd much rather see Margarito banned for life.

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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    I don't think Berto lasts till the final bell vs Cotto, Cotto busts him up inside and finishes him, If Cotto fought smart against Pacquiao he could've won, he was right in that fight till the second KD

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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
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    I'd rather see him knock out Margarito.
    As much as I loathe Margarito, that would be a very interesting fight to watch. I doubt Berto would knock him out though, unless Mosley completely shattered Margarito's chin.
    Berto is stylistically quite similar to Shane, so he could just watch the tactics & replicate the performance. I'd enjoy watching it though because I think Margarito is done
    Would be fun.For the sake of fans I hope Berto does well...but when I think Mosley and Berto mentallity alone...its boy and man...night and day executing plans in the ring.

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    Berto isnt a hard core fighter like Cotto or Mosley......I dont like the complaining and the denial that he was floored by quintana....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Berto isnt a hard core fighter like Cotto or Mosley......I dont like the complaining and the denial that he was floored by quintana....
    yep... only 30 seconds into the fight he complained like 3 to 4 times already for nothing.
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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    Rather see Berto fight Cintron next.
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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Berto isnt a hard core fighter like Cotto or Mosley......I dont like the complaining and the denial that he was floored by quintana....
    Yea, but he was borderline correct. He got hit behind the ear. Quintana was holding spinning Berto and punching him. The first knock down looked like a knock down in the replay. But watching it live, I thought Quintana pulled him more off balance when he went down. A foul is a foul and any should fighter have the right to complain if fouled.

    I prefer the reaction what Muhammad Ali did, (I forget who he was fighting, maybe Leon Spinks) I vaguly remember him grabing his opponent and knocking on the back of his head repeatedly after getting hit one too many times with a rabbit punch.

    I did a quick search it was Chuck Wepner.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5hWWWFoO2Q
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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    After seeing this fight I think Shane Mosley was right. He would've ruined Berto. I don't think Berto is going to be the next. He will have nothing for Pac, Mosley, or Mayweather. I just don't see Berto improving. Berto is rather easy to time and he never makes you guess. Fast hands but nothing else exceptional. I hope someone in his team tells him the truth. Leave the big 3 alone.
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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    Man I called that fight exactly how it went.

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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    Some of last night was ring rust, I'm sure. I like Berto. He might have fought a little stupid against Collazo, but he earned my respect in that fight. He's got great speed and his uppercut is a thing of beauty.

    But...

    Shane would spark him, no doubt. He can't control Mosley with his jab, and Mosley would catch him all night long when he jumps in, and he would make him pay with counters for those combinations. It would be a man against a boy.

    I think he gets the Cotto/Foreman winner.

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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    Berto was poor, no poise and composure, just loading up and little boxing skills.
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    Default Re: Berto vs. Quintana Fight Talk

    I think he looked good, just lost his head and wanted to brawl. He fell into the trapps all night.

    With some fine tuning he could be very good, but he without doubt needs to avoid top 3.

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